Local Elections

[Benfleet A1]

So far

Tories making large gains
Labour have taken a tonking
UKIP have taken a really big tonking (wipe out)
Lib Dems seem to have done ok without setting the world on fire.

Thoughts?

 

[Bielzibubz]

Exactly as predicted by many and dare I say it a clear sign of what's to come in the GE.

Que the expected witerings of from the usual suspects as to how local elections cannot be seen as a barometer of the wider political climate.

Please don't let me down :winking:

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

So far

Tories making large gains
Labour have taken a tonking
UKIP have taken a really big tonking (wipe out)
Lib Dems seem to have done ok without setting the world on fire.

Thoughts?

Obviously the main point is that the Tories are doing well. They have benefited from the collapse of UKIP and it seems a lot of people are going along with May's intentions that the GE is only about Brexit.


Locals are where Lib Dems do well - and they haven't. The West Mayoralty is interesting as more 2nd preference votes (i.e. the LibDem votes) went to Labour which indicates that any tactical voting could be anti Tory if used in the GE.


Labour haven't done well but doing better than predictions even at 1am where they were predicted to lose Swansea when in fact they have increased their majority. They have retained Cardiff and Newport and won the Doncaster Mayoralty with 57% of the vote. Still a lot more results to come in.


Certainly the cities verses everywhere else shows up a big left / right split in the country and certainly the Tories are doing the best out of these results - currently it seems 'Brexit is Brexit' really is all that you need to offer.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Exactly as predicted by many and dare I say it a clear sign of what's to come in the GE.

Que the expected witerings of from the usual suspects as to how local elections cannot be seen as a barometer of the wider political climate.

Please don't let me down :winking:

sorry, mine was already written before I saw yours or I would have ditched any locals / GE indicators. I humbly apologise.

 

[superblue24]

Often the local councils are seen as a means to put forward protest votes to "warn" the incumbent government, but if that isn't happening then a landslide could well be on the cards for June....

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Often the local councils are seen as a means to put forward protest votes to "warn" the incumbent government, but if that isn't happening then a landslide could well be on the cards for June....

Please define what you mean by "a landslide".

 

[superblue24]

Please define what you mean by "a landslide".

I'm surprised you do not remember 1997

 

[rigsby]

Often the local councils are seen as a means to put forward protest votes to "warn" the incumbent government, but if that isn't happening then a landslide could well be on the cards for June....

This time its a warning for the opposition. Unfortunately they won't listen, the people who stole the Labour part never do.

 

[rigsby]

Please define what you mean by "a landslide".

Get up nice an early on June the 9th and you can witness one.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I'm surprised you do not remember 1997

If you're claiming that The Tories are going to get a 100 seat +majority in June (as Blair did) then I'm quite happy to bet you a tenner they won't (loser pays SZ).

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

This time its a warning for the opposition. Unfortunately they won't listen, the people who stole the Labour part never do.

the current Labour leadership was voted in fair and square twice, the current Tory government has 30 MPs is it? that are likely to have election fraud cases brought by the CPS - something May was very aware of when she back tracked on Cameron's fixed term law and called an early election.

I think your use of the concept of theft is currently valid but you have attached it to the wrong party.

 

[superblue24]

the current Labour leadership was voted in fair and square twice, the current Tory government has 30 MPs is it? that are likely to have election fraud cases brought by the CPS - something May was very aware of when she back tracked on Cameron's fixed term law and called an early election.

I think your use of the concept of theft is currently valid but you have attached it to the wrong party.

Which will make the crushing defeat all the more embarrassing for Labour

 

[londonblue]

So far

Tories making large gains
Labour have taken a tonking
UKIP have taken a really big tonking (wipe out)
Lib Dems seem to have done ok without setting the world on fire.

Thoughts?

Good. Let's face it, arson isn't a vote winner.

:hilarious:

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Which will make the crushing defeat all the more embarrassing for Labour

Define "crushing defeat". :winking:

 

[londonblue]

If your claiming that The Tories are going to get a 100 seat +majority in June (as Blair did) then I'm quite happy to bet you a tenner they won't (loser pays SZ).

Sorry? Aren't you an English teacher?

 

[rigsby]

the current Labour leadership was voted in fair and square twice, the current Tory government has 30 MPs is it? that are likely to have election fraud cases brought by the CPS - something May was very aware of when she back tracked on Cameron's fixed term law and called an early election.

I think your use of the concept of theft is currently valid but you have attached it to the wrong party.

Another day, another whinge about May

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Sorry? Aren't you an English teacher?

I am indeed.:facepalm:(A tired English teaching this morning after staying up late to watch QT last night).

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

"Professor of Politics John Curtice said that the Conservatives had so far put in their best election performance since at least 2008, with an average swing of seven points from Labour to the Tories since 2013."

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-39799138

if there'a a 6% swing in the G/E the Tories would only have a 50 seat +majority.

 

[londonblue]

I am indeed.:facepalm:(A tired English teaching this morning after staying up late to watch QT last night).

Don't make excuses. Just re-read what you post before you post it!

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Which will make the crushing defeat all the more embarrassing for Labour

why would Tory election fraud make a Labour election defeat more embarrassing?