London restaurant recommendations

[Napster]

This weekend, I'll be watching us play Pompey.

The weekend after, (ie next weekend), I'll be watching Espanyol play Malaga.:raspberry:

Since when is the one after, the next one? #logicfail

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Since when is the one after, the next one? #logicfail

It's not a question of logic, it's a matter of usage.

cf Michael Swan's excellent Practical English Usage.

"When we want to talk about the week,month,year etc immediately after the present one,we use next without the."

See also:-http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=216330

"If there is a rule, it appears that "this weekend", when said on a
non-weekend day, refers to the end of the current week, while "next
weekend", when said on a non-weekend day, refers to the end of the
following week."

 

[Napster]

It's not a question of logic, it's a matter of usage.

cf Michael Swan's excellent Practical English Usage.

"When we want to talk about the week,month,year etc immediately after the present one,we use next without the."

Adjective[edit]
next

Following in a sequence.
Being closer to the present location than all other items.
Nearest following (of date, time, space or order).
(figuratively) Following in a hypothetical sequence of some kind.

ps see also this - as it's a Monday, I think me and Pubey are closer/

http://www.answers.com/Q/Is_next_weekend_this_coming_weekend_or_weekend_after_next

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Adjective[edit]
next

Following in a sequence.
Being closer to the present location than all other items.
Nearest following (of date, time, space or order).
(figuratively) Following in a hypothetical sequence of some kind.

ps see also this - as it's a Monday, I think me and Pubey are closer/

http://www.answers.com/Q/Is_next_weekend_this_coming_weekend_or_weekend_after_next

"I've helped a journalist friend clarify it this way:

This weekend = This week's end
Next weekend = Next week's end

GIVEN:
week = Monday 12am to Saturday 12am
weekend = everything else

YOU CAN THEN INFER:
During the week, "This weekend" starts the following Saturday.
During the weekend, "This weekend" is currently in progress.
During the week, "Next weekend" starts on the second Saturday.
During the weekend, "Next weekend" starts on the following Saturday.

This seems to be largely congruent with common usage, in addition to
providing a logical consistency. However, while "This weekend" is
almost never ambiguous, there is a much greater chance of
misconstruing the phrase "Next weekend". As justaskscott-ga suggests,
it is better to seek more precise communication when you are uncertain
whether all parties are operating under the same linguistic
conventions."

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=216330

Which was precidsely why the confusion arose in the first place.:smile:

 

[Napster]

"I've helped a journalist friend clarify it this way:

This weekend = This week's end
Next weekend = Next week's end

GIVEN:
week = Monday 12am to Saturday 12am
weekend = everything else

YOU CAN THEN INFER:
During the week, "This weekend" starts the following Saturday.
During the weekend, "This weekend" is currently in progress.
During the week, "Next weekend" starts on the second Saturday.
During the weekend, "Next weekend" starts on the following Saturday.

This seems to be largely congruent with common usage, in addition to
providing a logical consistency. However, while "This weekend" is
almost never ambiguous, there is a much greater chance of
misconstruing the phrase "Next weekend". As justaskscott-ga suggests,
it is better to seek more precise communication when you are uncertain
whether all parties are operating under the same linguistic
conventions."

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=216330

Pfft. Let's agree to disagree. I can call it what I like. It's next weekend.

 

[Pubey]

Can anyone recommend a decent place to get a cocktail after the gig in central london area/west end/shoreditch etc etc? Chilled out, nice drinks, easy to find. thank you!

 

[MK Shrimper]

Can anyone recommend a decent place to get a cocktail after the gig in central london area/west end/shoreditch etc etc? Chilled out, nice drinks, easy to find. thank you!

http://www.redonline.co.uk/travel/inspiration/cocktail-bars-in-london

Not been to any, but this may help.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Pfft. Let's agree to disagree. I can call it what I like. It's next weekend.

That's Humpty Dumptyism."When I use a word it means just what I choose it to mean,neither more nor less."

Alice Through the Looking Glass."


http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Humpty_Dumptyism

 

[Napster]

That's Humpty Dumptyism."When I use a word it means just what I choose it to mean,neither more nor less."

Alice Through the Looking Glass."


http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Humpty_Dumptyism

Not really. It's communication. Pubey knew what I meant. And since I was in dialogue with him, and he was the respondent, "proper" grammar doesn't really come into it. I can argue semantics and pragmatics all day long if you like.

 

[Pubey]

http://www.redonline.co.uk/travel/inspiration/cocktail-bars-in-london

Not been to any, but this may help.

Nice one thanks. Opium sounds good.. I like Dim Sum. Might give that a whirl

 

[Uncle Leo]

Since when is the one after, the next one? #logicfail

It's not a question of logic, it's a matter of usage.

cf Michael Swan's excellent Practical English Usage.

"When we want to talk about the week,month,year etc immediately after the present one,we use next without the."

See also:-http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=216330

"If there is a rule, it appears that "this weekend", when said on a
non-weekend day, refers to the end of the current week, while "next
weekend", when said on a non-weekend day, refers to the end of the
following week."

Adjective[edit]
next

Following in a sequence.
Being closer to the present location than all other items.
Nearest following (of date, time, space or order).
(figuratively) Following in a hypothetical sequence of some kind.

ps see also this - as it's a Monday, I think me and Pubey are closer/

http://www.answers.com/Q/Is_next_weekend_this_coming_weekend_or_weekend_after_next

"I've helped a journalist friend clarify it this way:

This weekend = This week's end
Next weekend = Next week's end

GIVEN:
week = Monday 12am to Saturday 12am
weekend = everything else

YOU CAN THEN INFER:
During the week, "This weekend" starts the following Saturday.
During the weekend, "This weekend" is currently in progress.
During the week, "Next weekend" starts on the second Saturday.
During the weekend, "Next weekend" starts on the following Saturday.

This seems to be largely congruent with common usage, in addition to
providing a logical consistency. However, while "This weekend" is
almost never ambiguous, there is a much greater chance of
misconstruing the phrase "Next weekend". As justaskscott-ga suggests,
it is better to seek more precise communication when you are uncertain
whether all parties are operating under the same linguistic
conventions."

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=216330

Which was precidsely why the confusion arose in the first place.:smile:

Pfft. Let's agree to disagree. I can call it what I like. It's next weekend.

For ****'s sake.

 

[Eastblack]

Trader Vics London (at Park Lane Hilton) is always good fun. Another good suggestion is Dirty Martini. My guess is the Hanover Sq would be quieter on a Saturday night. If you wanted to head back to the City Sushi Samba or Duck & Waffle would be a good bet, although not sure of what either of those would be like, or how busy, on a Saturday evening.

 

[Nick Prawnby]

If anyone's doing the Cutty Sark/Tall ships thing.....

Zaibatsu Japanese restaurant

96 Trafalgar Road | Greenwich, London SE10 9UW, England

had excellent meal there on Sunday

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Not really. It's communication. Pubey knew what I meant. And since I was in dialogue with him, and he was the respondent, "proper" grammar doesn't really come into it. I can argue semantics and pragmatics all day long if you like.

I've just heard Alistair Darling say on today's BBC1's lunchtime news:-

"We will win this referendum next week", (ie on September 18th).

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29105985


I make him right on both counts.Politically and semantically.

 

[Gremlin]

Can anyone recommend a decent place to get a cocktail after the gig in central london area/west end/shoreditch etc etc? Chilled out, nice drinks, easy to find. thank you!

If you can get across to Shoreditch in time then I'd recommend Boundary.

http://www.theboundary.co.uk/rooftop/