- Oct 26, 2003
Some valid points from locked threads for continued discussion:
Smiffy[b said:Quote[/b] ]Would have added my comment in the correct topic before it was locked, but In reference to Mikes quote above, do you not think that chanting for the away team in the home end is provocation regardless of where there support is directed. Anyone starts chanting Man U songs near me will soon be told in no uncertain terms where they should go.
Stickyboy[b said:Quote[/b] ]Well said FS, this is the stance I shall also be taking, unless it is a woman or young child of course...
Any male over 18 is fair game for some abuse in my book.
Smiffy[b said:Quote[/b] ]Dont think anyone will be too bothered if any Man Utd fans are just sitting there watching the game, if they stand up in our end and start singing then its different. On the other hand if they get up and start singing its likely to get any Southend fans up for singing more to shut them up so could work out better for atmos.
Joolz[b said:Quote[/b] ]If any Mancs sing in the home ends, it will raise the atmosphere, but it will also help turn it nasty...
Spanish Numpty[b said:Quote[/b] ]OK, I'll add this.
Generally speaking I don't dislike Man U fans at all, but I do dislike southern based Man U fans who have no connection with the club whatsoever, and will probably jump ship as soon as another team starts to dominate and United don't win anything for a couple of seasons.
And I especially dislike the fact that some of these fans have acquired tickets for the game at the expense of some very genuine and lloyal Southend fans. If they are so desparate to see them play, why don't they go to Old Trafford instead, where at least they will see the first team?
So I don't understand why we should be tolerant of Man U fans in the home end. If we want to generate an intimidating atmosphere at Roots Hall, we aren't going to do it by being 'one big happy family' all sitting together
Spanish Numpty[b said:Quote[/b] ]But my point is: there's a good chance that there will be a lot of kids in the ground on Tuesday night. Kids probably won't understand the concept of provocation on a scale conducive to football. They will be watching Manchester United - their team - and they will most probably sing the praises of that team. And I'm sure (hope?) most people here will understand that there is nothing wrong with that? Which is my point. If it's a bunch of kids, are you really going to advocate the use of strong-arm tactics to get them out of the home areas?
HKB[b said:Quote[/b] ]Whilst I understand that point, if these genuine and loyal fans really wanted to attend the game, why didn't they queue up at 4am in the morning to get themselves a ticket? These Manchester United fans were desperate to see their team play (they might not get the chance to do so otherwise) so they suffered numbing cold on Tuesday night and fully deserve a ticket. As does Aberdeen Shrimper, who drove down from the Highlands because he desperately wanted to go, which kinda puts a shuddering halt to all those complaints from exiles, eh?
Joolz[b said:Quote[/b] ]If I see a kid wearing a Man U scarf in the home end I'm certainly going to make a comment.
Wearing another team's colours in the home end is wrong.
TFS[b said:Quote[/b] ](re: fans not queuing up at 4.30)I don't know, any number or reasons. Work commitments, not wanting to leave young kids alone in the house at night, sleep! Just because someone is a genuine and lloyal fan, it doesn't make them a nutter!
[b said:Quote[/b] ]And lets be perfectly honest about it, who would have thought you would have missed out if you hadn't been there by 8.30ish. I certainly didn't.