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From the Tory hopeful's website....

02 April 2005
The Conservative candidate for Rochford and Southend East last night watched Steve Tillson's team go top of Coca Cola League Two.

Southend beat Bristol Rovers 2-0 with both goals coming in the first half. The result meant that the Blues leapfrogged Yeovil into first place, buoying confidence ahead of the season run-in.

James was delighted to have witnessed the victory and revealed he's feeling more and more at home every time he visits Roots Hall.

"Alhough I'm historically a Southampton supporter I've been to a few matches now and I will certainly develop split loyalties over time.

"This game itself was really enjoyable - Southend played really well and deserved their win. This time I was invited along but they'll be no need for invitations in the future!"

James was true to his word when he said this as he revealed he'll be watching his local team as much as possible during what will be a very exciting finale to the football campaign.

"I'm off to the LDV Vans Trophy Final in Cardiff this coming weekend and I've already got tickets for the crucial matches against Leyton Orient and Yeovil. It could be a really special end to the season if things go well."
 
It will take more than that to make me ever vote Conservative.
 
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Quote[/b] (Napster @ April 05 2005,11:51)]James was true to his word when he said this as he revealed he'll be watching his local team as much as possible during what will be a very exciting finale to the electioncampaign.
Typo corrected (in italics).
 
as he will be the next MP after Sir Teddy I think it's good he's seen the light. Southampton I ask you.
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Quote[/b] (Napster @ April 05 2005,11:51)]James was true to his word when he said this as he revealed he'll be watching his local team as much as possible during what will be a very exciting finale to the electioncampaign.
Typo corrected (in italics).
exactly

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Aren't UKIP the politically correct wing of the BNP, in the sort of way that Sinn Fein are the politically correct wing of the IRA?
 
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Quote[/b] (Hong Kong Blue @ April 05 2005,12:25)]Aren't UKIP the politically correct wing of the BNP, in the sort of way that Sinn Fein are the politically correct wing of the IRA?
I thought that the BNP were the political wing of Combat 18.

UKIP may be a bit Colonel Blimpish and are still stuck in the glory days of the Empire but it's a bit strong to call them all racists. The majority just want independence from the EU.
 
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Quote[/b] (Hong Kong Blue @ April 05 2005,12:25)]Aren't UKIP the politically correct wing of the BNP, in the sort of way that Sinn Fein are the politically correct wing of the IRA?
I thought that the BNP were the political wing of Combat 18.

UKIP may be a bit Colonel Blimpish and are still stuck in the glory days of the Empire but it's a bit strong to call them all racists. The majority just want independence from the EU.
Exactly - Also I have never known the BNP to plant bombs to kill people, even though I do not like them or agree with their policies, I think likening them to the IRA is over the top, maybe you should consider a career in the gutter press.
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However if you had likened Combat 18 to the IRA and the BNP like Sinn Fein you would have been closer the mark.

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Quote[/b] ]Combat 18

Combat 18 (or C18) was a British neo-Nazi terrorist organization formed in 1991 after meetings between football hooligans such as the Chelsea Headhunters, and the fascist group Blood & Honour. The "18" in their name is commonly used by neo-Nazi groups, and is derived from the first and eighth letters of the Latin alphabet, in other words the initials of Nazi leader Adolf Hitler.

The groups were formed as a response to attacks on meetings of the British National Party and other far-right meetings (most noteably Kensington library) during the early nineties by Anti Fascist Action.

Combat 18 quickly gained a reputation following a number of violent acts targeted at immigrants and people from the political left. In 1992 Combat 18 published the photocopies sheet Redwatch, which, like the German neo-Nazi publication Der Einblick, contained names and addresses of anti-racists, but also encouraged physical violence against those it listed.

Searchlight magazine, Red Action and other commentators on both the left and right spectrums of the media (including journalist Larry O'Hara) have stated their belief that Combat 18 was the brainchild of the British secret service organisation MI5, being designed to discredit the BNP, whilst simultaneously acting as a 'honey-trap' to attract the most violent neo-Nazis in Britain into a single organisation, where they could be monitored. It is also believed that Combat 18 were used by MI5 to infiltrate Loyalist paramilitary groups in Northern Ireland. In 1998, the leader of Combat 18, Charlie Sargent, an alleged Special Branch informant, was sentenced to life imprisonment for the 1997 murder of another member of the group.

During factional in-fighting, members of C18 cooperated with a documentary crew from the BBC Panorama program to prove they had been infiltrated and in some cases, controlled [Sargent] by the security services.

This effectively ended the organisation, although a small group of people still exist under that name though are largely inactive.

During April 1999, a former member of the National Socialist Movement (a C18 splinter group), 22-year-old David Copeland, apparently acting alone, carried out a nail bombing campaign aimed at the black, Asian and gay communities in London. On the 23rd April 1999, a bomb exploded in Brixton and another detonated a week later in Brick Lane, East London. On the 30th April, a third bombing at the pub The Admiral Duncan in Soho, killed three people, including a pregnant woman, and injured over a hundred others.

The White Wolves were believed by some journalists to be a C18 splinter group, which they alleged had been set up by Del O'Connor. The White Wolves were initially believed to be linked to these attacks [1] (http://www.guardian.co.uk/bombs/Story/0,2763,204778,00.html). However, the original terrorist document issued by the White Wolves – announcing their formation - has been attributed to David Myatt whose Practical Guide to Aryan Revolution inspired Copeland.

According to the German "Verfassungsschutz" (Governmental Department for the protection of the constitution) Combat 18 maintains divisions in USA, France, Sweden and Germany. This is however unlikely, as the group remain widely discredited among other groups due to their history of being a state honey trap. Their belief in the cell structure and their principled "Leaderless Resistance" call has however remained popular among other unaligned groups.October 28, 2003 the German police conducted a raid against the German supporters of the group [2] (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3220563.stm).

In 2001, C18 attacks on Muslim communities in Bradford and Oldham led to the formation of a Muslim counter-gang Combat 786.
 
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Quote[/b] (Wessex Blue @ April 05 2005,12:33)]
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Quote[/b] (Hong Kong Blue @ April 05 2005,12:25)]Aren't UKIP the politically correct wing of the BNP, in the sort of way that Sinn Fein are the politically correct wing of the IRA?
I thought that the BNP were the political wing of Combat 18.

UKIP may be a bit Colonel Blimpish and are still stuck in the glory days of the Empire but it's a bit strong to call them all racists. The majority just want independence from the EU.
Exactly - Also I have never known the BNP to plant bombs to kill people,  even though I do not like them or agree with their policies, I think likening them to the IRA is over the top, maybe you should consider a career in the gutter press.  
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Damn, where's that gone fishing icon?

I just liked the thought of accusing UKIP supporters of only supporting UKIP because of political correctness and comparing them to the IRA, as I know both are subject close to the heart of some UKIP supporters....

FWIW, my opinion is that to the extent that there is an ideology behind UKIP, that ideology is essentially a mild form of racism.
 
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Quote[/b] (Hong Kong Blue @ April 05 2005,14:12)]Damn, where's that gone fishing icon?
Yeah yeah, course you were.


Took your time to respond thought the answer was pretty poor.
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Please try harder to keep up the banter.
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Quote[/b] (Hong Kong Blue @ April 05 2005,12:25)]Aren't UKIP the politically correct wing of the BNP, in the sort of way that Sinn Fein are the politically correct wing of the IRA?
No they most certainly bloody aren't Cousin Weir! That's an outrageous slur - and bordering on libellous.

You of all people ought to know better, FFS.

Matt
 
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Quote[/b] (Hong Kong Blue @ April 05 2005,14:12)]FWIW, my opinion is that to the extent that there is an ideology behind UKIP, that ideology is essentially a mild form of racism.
Even if you have gone fishing, that is also total bullsh*t, Matthew.  I happen to know one of the people who created UKIP's early policies - and his motivation was almost entirely economic (he is an economist, and provided strong arguments for how the British economy would prosper strongly withing the EEC but outside the EU), coupled with a strong belief in political self-determination through Westminster, not Brussels.

When writing about something of which you clearly know nothing at all, you should perhaps choose your words more carefully.

Matt

P.S. I should point out that I don't support UKIP, nor do I intend to vote for them at the next election; instead, I happen to know one of the people who was a key figure in UKIP's early political ideology.  The very notion that Gerald might be a racist would be ludicrously funny if it weren't such an enormous insult.
 
I was going to say (MtS - correct me if i am wrong but UKIP feel we would gain more for Britain by trading with the North Americas and our Commonwealth without the stupid EU Regulations that cause problems in this type of trade.

If this is correct that would not smack of any type of racisim.



 
and one rule for another. I thought political posts were frowned upon... what a crap site!
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