Molesley In or out. (Poll added)

[GBJ]

Because we're bottom of the league, totally skint, and everybody's ****ed off?

Sure, we’re all ****ed off.... but I really fail to see how venting our frustrations in MM‘s direction can be justified. It’s not as if this is his fault.

If he was the sole cause of why we’re in the position we’re in, then fair play. But it only takes a modicum of football knowledge & common sense to understand why we’re the worst professional team in English Football.

Again, if anyone can explain how replacing the manager will change our fortunes, I’m all ears.

 

[Cultist of Sooty]

Sure, we’re all ****ed off.... but I really fail to see how venting our frustrations in MM‘s direction can be justified. It’s not as if this is his fault.

The question I answered wasn't "Is this MM's fault" it was:

"this thread has run for 6 pages and 118 posts, but why?"

The thread is long because of:

People lashing out at Molesley.
People lashing out at the players.
People lashing out at Ron Martin.
People lashing out at (Insert Target Here).
People lashing out at posters for lashing out at the wrong target.

Lots of us are ****ed off at how things are. So we're lashing out at everything in sight.

If we weren't ****ed off, the thread would have lasted 5 minutes and be somewhere down the bottom of the page now. Everyone's on edge and unhappy at the moment, so almost everything will start a fight.

For example, all those people who insist on liking the wrong flavour of crisps. Down with that sort of thing!

If - and it looks like a very large "if" right now - we somehow get a few decent results and we get some good news from our court reporter on Wednesday, this place will be a lot less bite-y.

But now? Everyone's going to be snapping at each other over everything because what should be our escape from the rest of the world's pressures has been a source of sadness rather than fun for a long time.

If the team improves, the fan forum will be a much nicer place again.

 

[South Bank Hank]

Rather than engaging with this cretin, just ignore them. With no exchange of views he'll soon get bored shouting into an empty room.

By engaging with this nonsense you fuel the fire and on top of that let anyone else sitting on the fence lean towards supporting the view and thus civil war breaks out in the ranks.

They have no credible view of alternatives, just spouting non-sensical hyperbolic statements and then thriving on just responding like a scratched record locked on the same groove. If he continues to feel that strongly about it, he'll head down to Roots Hall to express his displeasure and be treated with the same contempt as the local drunk shouting in the middle of the High Street about the world being flat.

Looks like this did slip through and, as others have rightly pointed out, this isn't what SZ is about. We wouldn't have much debate if we all thought the same or just ignored (and encouraged others to ignore) every opinion we didn't like.

So less of the cretin-style comments please. If you don't like the view or opinion, then challenge it. If the poster is truly destroying your personal enjoyment of the internet, then put them on ignore. But there's no need for the personal abuse.

 

[GBJ]

The question I answered wasn't "Is this MM's fault" it was:

"this thread has run for 6 pages and 118 posts, but why?"

The thread is long because of:

People lashing out at Molesley.
People lashing out at the players.
People lashing out at Ron Martin.
People lashing out at (Insert Target Here).
People lashing out at posters for lashing out at the wrong target.

Lots of us are ****ed off at how things are. So we're lashing out at everything in sight.

If we weren't ****ed off, the thread would have lasted 5 minutes and be somewhere down the bottom of the page now. Everyone's on edge and unhappy at the moment, so almost everything will start a fight.

For example, all those people who insist on liking the wrong flavour of crisps. Down with that sort of thing!

If - and it looks like a very large "if" right now - we somehow get a few decent results and we get some good news from our court reporter on Wednesday, this place will be a lot less bite-y.

But now? Everyone's going to be snapping at each other over everything because what should be our escape from the rest of the world's pressures has been a source of sadness rather than fun for a long time.

If the team improves, the fan forum will be a much nicer place again.

Thats a far better answer to the original question. Clear and concise

 

[South Bank Hank]

As for putting the blame on Mark Molseley, if it was Brown's fault, and then Powell's fault, then Bond's (and Redknapp's!), then Waddock's, then Sol's and now Molesley's, then I think we're missing the point. This is a much bigger issue than whether we played a bad ball out from the back, put player X out on the wing or left player Y on the bench.

 

[Chrisb]

Imagine trying to explain to someone who knew nothing about SUFC what has happened both on and off the field over the last few years - you just couldn't, there is too much. That limits who you can properly discuss it with to those who know and I think is why people are snapping at each other on here as we are all worried about our club.

 

[Shrimpet steve]

Can’t judge a game if you don’t watch it, just the way it is. We’ve played poorly in games this season but we’ve played some seriously good football today

Ok but its about winning right? U can play like man city and play the opposition of the park but if u cant score u cant get a result.

 

[CaptainSmudger]

Anyone else agree this guys out of his depth and we need a proper manager with football league experience

I have been wondering myself, but don.t really want to go there! Remember Paul Hirst at Ipswich not to long ago.

 

[Barling Magna]

Ok but its about winning right? U can play like man city and play the opposition of the park but if u cant score u cant get a result.

Well you can get a draw......

(and a defeat is also a result, strictly speaking.....)

 

[londonblue]

You sow what you reap

I think you mean you reap what you sow.

 

[londonblue]

Speculation, but I reckon Molesley runs more of a 'Good Guy' persona when managing. That suits working with youngsters, but maybe not getting results out of them. Especially players like Goodship need to be told to ****ing get stuck into tackles. Someone needs to get in their face and tell them so.

Personally I think that if we sack Molesley we're almost guarenteed to get relegated (short of bringing in Ancelotti.), but if we keep him on and he grows with the squad we might just be able to knick staying in the league.

ALSO, we should wait until we have White and McCormack back (whenever that is) to fully judge how MM sets them up.

Agreed that it's speculation, but I suspect you're wrong. Given the way he keeps saying we can't feel sorry for ourselves I suspect he's trying to toughen them up by not allowing them to make excuses. He's probably nice to them, but I also suspect he doesn't take any **** either.

 

[rigsby]

I think you mean you reap what you sow.

In order to sow you have to have reaped.

 

[Zeuss]

Agreed that it's speculation, but I suspect you're wrong. Given the way he keeps saying we can't feel sorry for ourselves I suspect he's trying to toughen them up by not allowing them to make excuses. He's probably nice to them, but I also suspect he doesn't take any **** either.

I heard via one of our players that Molesley went absolutely berserk with the team after the Cheltenham performance.
Back from the remarkable Canvey Cup-tie ,I just missed the start of MMs post-match interview on BBC Essex on Saturday and spent more than 5 minutes listening and trying to work out which one of our younger players was answering the questions.

 

[Murkey_Mouse]

I heard via one of our players that Molesley went absolutely berserk with the team after the Cheltenham performance.
Back from the remarkable Canvey Cup-tie ,I just missed the start of MMs post-match interview on BBC Essex on Saturday and spent more than 5 minutes listening and trying to work out which one of our younger players was answering the questions.

Image how he feel after the Salford game ?

 

[Rayleigh boy]

this tragedy seems to be developing ....

 

[Jay_SUFC]

Losing my patients with this guy now; just when you think we start to play ok, we put in a performance like that

 

[Rayleigh boy]

when we win free kicks on the half way line or inside the opposition half you have the opportunity to bring up your centtre halves and bomb their box .... second balls - chaos - goals

under MM we do not do this simple but effective thing ..

under MM we take short free kicks to play "football"

we are 92nd outof 92

 

[Shrimpet steve]

Who thinks mark molsley is the right man for the job? We havent won a game of football under his management.We have a very big squad of under achievers and non with much quality.U can make all the excuses in the world but the buck stops with the manager.

 

[Flinty]

and here we go ...as predictable as a southend defeat every week

 

[Medway Blue]

For the love of sweet baby Jesus, do you ever zip it?