dave cusaks nose
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Well having read everyones posts (all 29 pages of them) and having had time to diggest a few things I thought, well I felt I needed to write as I have so many opinions on posts from posters on hear, I think what it does show is so many personalities in people on these boards, and I don't think anyones right or wrong in there opinions, because if its what they acctually believe in how can they be wrong?
Well having saw the commossion on Saturday, I was surprised, but not particularly shocked at seeing something like that happen. Firstly I was surprised in Ginger Junior being able to drop a round house kick on anyone being the size he is.! I was surprised the fella who took the slap didnt react in the same manner as the attackers. (well played there mate), I was surprised after all those years of growing older and wiser that Ging did something like that, I mean don't get me wrong once you've got the fighter in you, it will never ever leave you, but you do learn how to control it,and lastly I am actually totally surprised by posters views on the thread. Now that is by no means a dig at anyone, we all walk in different circles in life, and maybe I have and do see abit more of the above than the majority on hear, It doesnt and hasnt affected my life, it has deffinately opened my eyes to life, and made me a hell of a lot street wiser than I used to be.
But I honestly do believe there has been a lot of over reaction on these boards, Because at the end of the day a bloke was having an argument with someone else and it turned into a small scale fight. there was no gang on gang, guns, knives or other weapons just 3 or four punches, Yes granted that was definately 2 on to 1, no doubt, and that is a no no, and both of the too should have the bollox to put there hands up to that. Over the years of Supporting Southend there has been loads of times when I have felt like cracking a fellow supporter on the Jaw, the reason I havent is not because 'we are all southend blah blah blah and all that crap' Its because I can control my temper to a certain level ie If the pair of them had gone into me like that,as long as they hadnt knocked me out, I would have been into them like a f**king lion, and thats why I have comended you fella earlier on, But I do realise now in life that violence is not the easy answer, I say 'easy' because I honestly do feel there are times in life when it works, as simple as that. There is always a less stressful way of doing things than raising your fists.
From my eventful youth I have gone from being a right brawler into a someone who will only ever use violence as a last resort.
Now for Ginger and his boy because of his crazy 25 seconds, and thats all it probably was, will in my experience and only because there was so many people present and because it was at a sporting arena will get a custodial sentance. And I will be sick for them if they do. Once you go to prison you loose everything and its the start of the big spiral down. Im not saying they shouldnt be punished at all, but in my eyes things like that dont warrent a prison sentance. And I feel ashamed to be on a web site where so many fans actually want to see them go to prison, just for that, surely you would all get more satisfacton seeing them on community service whilst you walk past them both working in Oxfam on your way to roots hall, or something like that alternatively hit them hard in the pocket for what they have done, or then there is the alternative way of doing things, drop the charges and give them some of there own medicine, its all to do with what you feel is the appropriate action.
since I was 18 I started doing door work, and was massively out of my depth, but having worked with good, tough, honourable men I have seen that there is nothing more emmbarressing than seeing people men and women fighting, you loose all your respect and make a complete prat out of yourselfs. And because of the career path I chose I have seen hundreds of proper fight, beetings in fact weapons and tools being used I have even had a gun wagled in my face was it loaded I will never know, but i do know for sure ging and jamie will be regretting it all know.
I don't know or ever claimed to have known Ginger, and he probably doesnt know me, but because of what i have done in the past i have seen him in action, and our paths have crossed quite a few times and again as has been said by the Hound and a very limited few .I think he is a good egg, certainly not a rotten apple that you all have been so quick to label him with.
My opinion of the whole thing is that they where caught ( by f**king loads of people!) doing something wrong, end of no big deal, the bloke will be back at work today with a few war scares, telling all the girls in the office about his famous battle, and how he was set apon by 20 wild men, and some how he managed to fend them all off etc etc etc.
My Second Gripe of the thread
a good 10 or 12 years ago a group of close friends and all big Southend supporters started travelling to and from games, and because of there weapon of choice comicaly called themselves the CS Crew, the chaps grew in numbers and at the end of the 90,s could number 30 - 50 drinking together at one time, up and down the country we defended our honour and our clubs name, always against big bully boy clubs and there firms, but you grow up and things change, good jobs, hot chicks,Night life and bordom of it all sets in, Of that famouse
'no more than 10 no less than 2 ' probably about 5 -6 of us still go and watch our beloveds sometimes a little tanked up and sometimes may be a bit over zellus, but that fortunately is us now days, what I am saying is there is no CS Crew anymore, if I fight its because someone has brought it to me or its a last solution, it doesnt matter if its at football or in the park but I am not part of any firm.
Now I agree with people on this board about there anger at the pratts who constantly goad the opposition fans and that it could have a direct consiquence in people around thems safety. Of cause it could. The mugs down the front at Oxford and in the corner of the West Bank like to call themselves the CS Youth, now what the f**k have any of you little mugs got to do with what we used to have, absolutely nothing, you prance around thinking you are the chaps giving it the f**king biggan as they you own the town, the only thing you own are your w*** mags under the bed!!!! and even then your dads probably brought them for you. To me you lot should take a good long look at yourselves.After the match at Oxford all that bollox you were giving it with Oxford, if you wanted to get to them so f**king badly like you made out you wanted to do then you only had to go betwen a thin row of stewards, if you wnated it so badly because you are such top boys, when you were in the bowling alley, why didnt you just tear in to them, Ill tell you why because you are a bunch of f**king mugs, and as for that dick down the front with you in a fake cream stone Island jumper and baseball hat I think he calls himself Will, well you must be well proud of him, I heard he chased a group of ten year olds on there bikes across the car park after the game, and tride to throw bottles at them, what a complete $%&* you are mate. I think you must stop using our name to assosiate yourselves with us, your an embarressmet to the name of the club
Lastly Attn of Jonesy Tap In
who called me 'pathetic' for saying the blocked thread was boring and also stated that ' I shouldnt ever come on hear again' all I can say to you is
Bollox my friend ,Id spread you on toast and f**king eat you.
Cockles
Well having saw the commossion on Saturday, I was surprised, but not particularly shocked at seeing something like that happen. Firstly I was surprised in Ginger Junior being able to drop a round house kick on anyone being the size he is.! I was surprised the fella who took the slap didnt react in the same manner as the attackers. (well played there mate), I was surprised after all those years of growing older and wiser that Ging did something like that, I mean don't get me wrong once you've got the fighter in you, it will never ever leave you, but you do learn how to control it,and lastly I am actually totally surprised by posters views on the thread. Now that is by no means a dig at anyone, we all walk in different circles in life, and maybe I have and do see abit more of the above than the majority on hear, It doesnt and hasnt affected my life, it has deffinately opened my eyes to life, and made me a hell of a lot street wiser than I used to be.
But I honestly do believe there has been a lot of over reaction on these boards, Because at the end of the day a bloke was having an argument with someone else and it turned into a small scale fight. there was no gang on gang, guns, knives or other weapons just 3 or four punches, Yes granted that was definately 2 on to 1, no doubt, and that is a no no, and both of the too should have the bollox to put there hands up to that. Over the years of Supporting Southend there has been loads of times when I have felt like cracking a fellow supporter on the Jaw, the reason I havent is not because 'we are all southend blah blah blah and all that crap' Its because I can control my temper to a certain level ie If the pair of them had gone into me like that,as long as they hadnt knocked me out, I would have been into them like a f**king lion, and thats why I have comended you fella earlier on, But I do realise now in life that violence is not the easy answer, I say 'easy' because I honestly do feel there are times in life when it works, as simple as that. There is always a less stressful way of doing things than raising your fists.
From my eventful youth I have gone from being a right brawler into a someone who will only ever use violence as a last resort.
Now for Ginger and his boy because of his crazy 25 seconds, and thats all it probably was, will in my experience and only because there was so many people present and because it was at a sporting arena will get a custodial sentance. And I will be sick for them if they do. Once you go to prison you loose everything and its the start of the big spiral down. Im not saying they shouldnt be punished at all, but in my eyes things like that dont warrent a prison sentance. And I feel ashamed to be on a web site where so many fans actually want to see them go to prison, just for that, surely you would all get more satisfacton seeing them on community service whilst you walk past them both working in Oxfam on your way to roots hall, or something like that alternatively hit them hard in the pocket for what they have done, or then there is the alternative way of doing things, drop the charges and give them some of there own medicine, its all to do with what you feel is the appropriate action.
since I was 18 I started doing door work, and was massively out of my depth, but having worked with good, tough, honourable men I have seen that there is nothing more emmbarressing than seeing people men and women fighting, you loose all your respect and make a complete prat out of yourselfs. And because of the career path I chose I have seen hundreds of proper fight, beetings in fact weapons and tools being used I have even had a gun wagled in my face was it loaded I will never know, but i do know for sure ging and jamie will be regretting it all know.
I don't know or ever claimed to have known Ginger, and he probably doesnt know me, but because of what i have done in the past i have seen him in action, and our paths have crossed quite a few times and again as has been said by the Hound and a very limited few .I think he is a good egg, certainly not a rotten apple that you all have been so quick to label him with.
My opinion of the whole thing is that they where caught ( by f**king loads of people!) doing something wrong, end of no big deal, the bloke will be back at work today with a few war scares, telling all the girls in the office about his famous battle, and how he was set apon by 20 wild men, and some how he managed to fend them all off etc etc etc.
My Second Gripe of the thread
a good 10 or 12 years ago a group of close friends and all big Southend supporters started travelling to and from games, and because of there weapon of choice comicaly called themselves the CS Crew, the chaps grew in numbers and at the end of the 90,s could number 30 - 50 drinking together at one time, up and down the country we defended our honour and our clubs name, always against big bully boy clubs and there firms, but you grow up and things change, good jobs, hot chicks,Night life and bordom of it all sets in, Of that famouse
'no more than 10 no less than 2 ' probably about 5 -6 of us still go and watch our beloveds sometimes a little tanked up and sometimes may be a bit over zellus, but that fortunately is us now days, what I am saying is there is no CS Crew anymore, if I fight its because someone has brought it to me or its a last solution, it doesnt matter if its at football or in the park but I am not part of any firm.
Now I agree with people on this board about there anger at the pratts who constantly goad the opposition fans and that it could have a direct consiquence in people around thems safety. Of cause it could. The mugs down the front at Oxford and in the corner of the West Bank like to call themselves the CS Youth, now what the f**k have any of you little mugs got to do with what we used to have, absolutely nothing, you prance around thinking you are the chaps giving it the f**king biggan as they you own the town, the only thing you own are your w*** mags under the bed!!!! and even then your dads probably brought them for you. To me you lot should take a good long look at yourselves.After the match at Oxford all that bollox you were giving it with Oxford, if you wanted to get to them so f**king badly like you made out you wanted to do then you only had to go betwen a thin row of stewards, if you wnated it so badly because you are such top boys, when you were in the bowling alley, why didnt you just tear in to them, Ill tell you why because you are a bunch of f**king mugs, and as for that dick down the front with you in a fake cream stone Island jumper and baseball hat I think he calls himself Will, well you must be well proud of him, I heard he chased a group of ten year olds on there bikes across the car park after the game, and tride to throw bottles at them, what a complete $%&* you are mate. I think you must stop using our name to assosiate yourselves with us, your an embarressmet to the name of the club
Lastly Attn of Jonesy Tap In
who called me 'pathetic' for saying the blocked thread was boring and also stated that ' I shouldnt ever come on hear again' all I can say to you is
Bollox my friend ,Id spread you on toast and f**king eat you.
Cockles
