National League owners - a mixture!

[Hawkwell Blue]

Not sure York fans think their chairman is a “nice chap” after what’s happened there today.

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

Envy chesterfield and Gateshead, although not sure it would work for us. We Can't decide on onions or no onions in the snack bars. (I'm with onions btw)

I'm with avoiding the snack bar!
A burger from 2019 is still repeating...

 

[rigsby]

Envy chesterfield and Gateshead, although not sure it would work for us. We Can't decide on onions or no onions in the snack bars. (I'm with onions btw)

The worst stadiums by a mile are the ones with an athletics track around the pitch...Followed by open empty stands. How could anyone envy Gateshead

 

[mattytheshrimper]

Not sure York fans think their chairman is a “nice chap” after what’s happened there today.

I've seen a lots been going on today but I don't actually know whats happened. Any idea?

 

[Rayleigh boy]

Thats because in the modern world of Football the only thing that matters is money. Clubs like us and Yeovile punched way above their weight, so the fall is always further.

Just over 30 years ago you could make 2nd tier football along with the likes of Cambridge and Grimsby.....Look what happened to them.

Back then not all England Footballers were millionaires but after Italia 90 and Sky, the 90's were the boom time for English football. Of course we were in no position to be a Championship club so debts mounted and thats why we got Ron.

I think we finished 18th in L2 that season so only about 11 places above where we are now. When Oldham and Scunny came down last season, I think that makes about 25 clubs that finished above us in 98 who have now been NL or have gone completely. That doesn't include teams that came in and went in that period.

The roller coaster ride in those 24 years has included one more season in the Championship and the price for that trip was so expensive we ended up nearly going bust again.

Back up to L1 in 2015 and this time we really were chasing fools gold. lots of fans were angry that PB then CP couldn't deliver promotion......Many Shrimpers were deluded and convinced we are a Championship club......We never have been and we never will be because its to late now. Look at the top 10 in L1 if you don't believe me.

Yes with a new stadium, Hollywood/Arab type owner that the same fools believe is the answer. Then yes, we could eventually have a season or 2 in the Championship. Enjoying the company of the mythical 1000's former PL fans moaning about the standard of football.

Maybe do some yo-yoing like Wigan or Rotherham......Still at least when we drop back to L1 us 6,000 will only be sitting in a soulless 16,000 seater instead of 21,000. The same people who hate Ron and wanted Kev gone just a month ago will now have new targets. They can lie to you now that its only Ron but it never will be. Those that revel in hate can never change.

The we can all look back at the time spent, the anger, the fights and 1,000,000 posts about Ron.......And think was it really worth it.

I have no time for this sort of low esteem point of view ...

for me our peer group of clubs are Brentford, Reading, Brighton, Bournemouth,

these were the clubs that were based on similar and healthy fan bases and were our close rivals back in the day ...

I really think the "we are crap and always will be crap" point of view is appalling and destructive..

 

[Hawkwell Blue]

Unfortunately our “peer groups” without exception have been bankrolled by extremely wealthy owners over the years all of whom are in a completely different league to Ron.

 

[fbm]

I have no time for this sort of low esteem point of view ...

for me our peer group of clubs are Brentford, Reading, Brighton, Bournemouth,

these were the clubs that were based on similar and healthy fan bases and were our close rivals back in the day ...

I really think the "we are crap and always will be crap" point of view is appalling and destructive..

Brentford and Reading maybe... add to that Orient, Grimsby, Gillingham, Rotherham, Lincoln, possibly Swansea. Bournemouth at an absolute push.

Brighton however is a much bigger club with a much bigger catchment, without doubt.

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

I have no time for this sort of low esteem point of view ...

for me our peer group of clubs are Brentford, Reading, Brighton, Bournemouth,

these were the clubs that were based on similar and healthy fan bases and were our close rivals back in the day ...

I really think the "we are crap and always will be crap" point of view is appalling and destructive..

I sort of agree.
But what do those four examples have in common?
All have new grounds from the time when we were regular opponents.
In all four cases they also had enough financial clout from one person that didn't depend on deals to be done in the future.

 

[Justleavingwork]

I have no time for this sort of low esteem point of view ...

for me our peer group of clubs are Brentford, Reading, Brighton, Bournemouth,

these were the clubs that were based on similar and healthy fan bases and were our close rivals back in the day ...

I really think the "we are crap and always will be crap" point of view is appalling and destructive..

Always like these thread about how great we are and how we should be equal with other clubs who have be bankrolled by multi million pumping millions in each year.

If we look at these similar club based performances it would appear that Brentford are closest 9 places above us, then Bournemouth at 11, followed by Reading 25, and Brighton 26. Based on average league position over time.

Five either side above, port vale, Carlisle, Gillingham, fleetwood and bury. Five below Peterborough, Yeovil, Wrexham, Colchester and Cambridge. These are probably the ones that we should be comparing ourselves with, some familiar names, now if you do it be catchment you probably could come up with a completely different table, but you might as well advocate for a super league with no relegation for “big clubs”…


Average league position since 1957/58 (blue dots) vs. the standard deviation of the positions (red area), ordered by rank. Parentheses indicate how many seasons in the Football League have contributed to the scores.

The Football League: Analysis of historical league positions

A couple of years ago my dad retired. As you’d probably expect from a man who suddenly has around 50 extra hours free in the week, his mind has been afforded the space to think about the impo…

mathematicallysafe.wordpress.com

 

[rigsby]

I'm told that the owners of Bournemouth drew up a list of 20+ clubs as their potential targets.

We were crossed off the list as so much of our area has strong London links. Bournemouth have a catchment of over 400,000. Plus there are not full of plastic Pie and Mash Gooners and Yids etc.

Swansea are often mentioned on here but spent years at 2nd tier level with full local support. Brighton played at the top level before their troubled times with again more local support.

There are only two clubs you can really compare us against and thats Bristol R and Gillingham....Especially asthey have failed so far to relocate

 

[Barling Magna]

Always like these thread about how great we are and how we should be equal with other clubs who have be bankrolled by multi million pumping millions in each year.

If we look at these similar club based performances it would appear that Brentford are closest 9 places above us, then Bournemouth at 11, followed by Reading 25, and Brighton 26. Based on average league position over time.

Five either side above, port vale, Carlisle, Gillingham, fleetwood and bury. Five below Peterborough, Yeovil, Wrexham, Colchester and Cambridge. These are probably the ones that we should be comparing ourselves with, some familiar names, now if you do it be catchment you probably could come up with a completely different table, but you might as well advocate for a super league with no relegation for “big clubs”…


Average league position since 1957/58 (blue dots) vs. the standard deviation of the positions (red area), ordered by rank. Parentheses indicate how many seasons in the Football League have contributed to the scores.

The Football League: Analysis of historical league positions

A couple of years ago my dad retired. As you’d probably expect from a man who suddenly has around 50 extra hours free in the week, his mind has been afforded the space to think about the impo…

mathematicallysafe.wordpress.com

71st eh? At least we're above Colchester (just).

 

[rigsby]

Always like these thread about how great we are and how we should be equal with other clubs who have be bankrolled by multi million pumping millions in each year.

If we look at these similar club based performances it would appear that Brentford are closest 9 places above us, then Bournemouth at 11, followed by Reading 25, and Brighton 26. Based on average league position over time.

Five either side above, port vale, Carlisle, Gillingham, fleetwood and bury. Five below Peterborough, Yeovil, Wrexham, Colchester and Cambridge. These are probably the ones that we should be comparing ourselves with, some familiar names, now if you do it be catchment you probably could come up with a completely different table, but you might as well advocate for a super league with no relegation for “big clubs”…


Average league position since 1957/58 (blue dots) vs. the standard deviation of the positions (red area), ordered by rank. Parentheses indicate how many seasons in the Football League have contributed to the scores.

The Football League: Analysis of historical league positions

A couple of years ago my dad retired. As you’d probably expect from a man who suddenly has around 50 extra hours free in the week, his mind has been afforded the space to think about the impo…

mathematicallysafe.wordpress.com

Interestingly there are only 3 clubs below us who have not been in the NL at some stage.

 

[kaymac]

Aldershot Town - Shahid Azeem - successful IT company entrepreneur
Altrincham - Keep quite a firm budget and have an excellent board. https://altrinchamfc.com/pages/board-of-directors
Barnet - Ultimate owner Tony Kleanthous who is very wealthy.
Boreham Wood - Danny Hunter is long-standing owner, works in real estate -made £2m last year
Bromley - Ultimate owner parent company, R Stanton Gleaves works in recruitment and housing (major new project is in my hometown lol), they ultimately fund the club
Chesterfield - fan owned
Dagenham & Redbridge - Trinity Sports Holdings, US company, ultimate owner
Dorking Wanderers - Marc White owner/manager, about 100k net liabilities. Very tight budget.
Eastleigh - no idea
FC Halifax Town - David Bosomworth, motor trade. His group made £8.5m profit in 2021.
Gateshead - fan owned
Maidenhead United - Peter Griffin, pharma consultant
Maidstone United- Oliver Ash (real estate and sports) and Terry Casey
Notts County - Alexander and Christoffer Reedtz, Danish brothers/CEOs of Football Radar
Oldham Athletic - Frank Rothwell - entrepreneur, local. Mad as a hatter.
Scunthorpe United - undergoing takeover. but Peter Swann was chairman. He owned the Sands in Blackpool and his wife is joint-chairman of Wilkinson's.
Solihull Moors - CIC, Darryl Eales most prominent director. Worked in private equity. Owner of Debretts and many others.
Southend United - rascal Ron
Torquay United - Clarke Osborne, entrepreneur. (Telecoms, gaming, property)
Wealdstone - Unclear.
Woking - Peter Jordan, gas industry (Calor franchisee)
Wrexham- no idea lol
Yeovil Town - Scott Priestnall, worse than Ron? Bit of a ducker and diver in hospitality, fans dont like him.
York City - Glen Henderson - owns 51%, trust owns 49%. seems a nice chap - sports background.

Eastleigh were backed heavily by Stewart Donald, rumoured £10m, then owner of Bridle Insurance (one of Oxford‘s main sponsors) which led to their climb up the leagues and ground being redeveloped. Donald later took over at Sunderland.

 

[Danshrimper]

Always like these thread about how great we are and how we should be equal with other clubs who have be bankrolled by multi million pumping millions in each year.

If we look at these similar club based performances it would appear that Brentford are closest 9 places above us, then Bournemouth at 11, followed by Reading 25, and Brighton 26. Based on average league position over time.

Five either side above, port vale, Carlisle, Gillingham, fleetwood and bury. Five below Peterborough, Yeovil, Wrexham, Colchester and Cambridge. These are probably the ones that we should be comparing ourselves with, some familiar names, now if you do it be catchment you probably could come up with a completely different table, but you might as well advocate for a super league with no relegation for “big clubs”…


Average league position since 1957/58 (blue dots) vs. the standard deviation of the positions (red area), ordered by rank. Parentheses indicate how many seasons in the Football League have contributed to the scores.

The Football League: Analysis of historical league positions

A couple of years ago my dad retired. As you’d probably expect from a man who suddenly has around 50 extra hours free in the week, his mind has been afforded the space to think about the impo…

mathematicallysafe.wordpress.com

It would be good to see one that included time spent in non-league as well, to paint a better picture. There is no way Fleetwood deserve to be above us and teams like Peterborough, Wrexham, Chesterfield, Doncaster etc based on less than 10 years in the Football League.

 

[stewart]

The worst stadiums by a mile are the ones with an athletics track around the pitch...Followed by open empty stands. How could anyone envy Gateshead

souless ground ,no wonder our lads had an off day