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Question Next season 2022-2023 expectations?

Where will will finish

  • Champions

    Votes: 2 2.6%
  • Play-off places

    Votes: 32 41.6%
  • Mid table

    Votes: 41 53.2%
  • Struggling

    Votes: 1 1.3%
  • Relegated

    Votes: 1 1.3%
  • Bart

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    77

Shrimpergarry

You have no authority here, Jackie Weaver⭐
Staff member
Joined
Oct 24, 2003
Messages
4,865
Location
Chelmsford
Just out of interest, those expecting 7th and above, what are you basing it on?
Our first 10 games of the season, under Phil Brown, yielded 8 points. Extrapolate that over a 46 game season and that is 36.8 points which would have been bottom 4 this season - even with Dover and their massive points deduction. That's a relegation place next year.

The remaining 34 games under the three amigos yielded 50 points. Extrapolate that over a 46 game season and that is 67.65 points which would have been 9/10th this season (yes, I know it was only a 44 game season but bear with me!)

HOWEVER, KM had a standing start with a squad he inherited and his first 10 games only yielded 11 points.

I would expect the clear out of players, the squad he has already assembled plus the signings to be made with the advantage of a proper scouting network and due diligence will yield the additional points to help us become a top 7 side next season.
 

JWShrimper

Newbie
Joined
Jun 13, 2011
Messages
121
Our first 10 games of the season, under Phil Brown, yielded 8 points. Extrapolate that over a 46 game season and that is 36.8 points which would have been bottom 4 this season - even with Dover and their massive points deduction. That's a relegation place next year.

The remaining 34 games under the three amigos yielded 50 points. Extrapolate that over a 46 game season and that is 67.65 points which would have been 9/10th this season (yes, I know it was only a 44 game season but bear with me!)

HOWEVER, KM had a standing start with a squad he inherited and his first 10 games only yielded 11 points.

I would expect the clear out of players, the squad he has already assembled plus the signings to be made with the advantage of a proper scouting network and due diligence will yield the additional points to help us become a top 7 side next season.

What Shrimpergarry said 👍
 

Ghost of C.F.

Ghost of Christmas Future
Joined
Jan 23, 2021
Messages
117
Location
Rochford
Our first 10 games of the season, under Phil Brown, yielded 8 points. Extrapolate that over a 46 game season and that is 36.8 points which would have been bottom 4 this season - even with Dover and their massive points deduction. That's a relegation place next year.

The remaining 34 games under the three amigos yielded 50 points. Extrapolate that over a 46 game season and that is 67.65 points which would have been 9/10th this season (yes, I know it was only a 44 game season but bear with me!)

HOWEVER, KM had a standing start with a squad he inherited and his first 10 games only yielded 11 points.

I would expect the clear out of players, the squad he has already assembled plus the signings to be made with the advantage of a proper scouting network and due diligence will yield the additional points to help us become a top 7 side next season.
I do follow your logic but there is now a new factor which warrants serious attention - lack of resources . We could instigate an immediate freeze on new recruitment or perhaps sell several of our better players to remedy the unhappy situation. This will most likely result in us dropping valuable points . But a smaller playing budget will allow the non-players at the club to get paid. I would hate to be a member of staff who isn't being paid because it would make me feel my contribution to the club was not being properly recognised and I would be even more upset if I found some of my colleagues were being paid their wages in full. Balancing a budget is never easy but the task does need to be performed with a proper sense of fairness at its core . Chesterfield Town , a charity-owned club, set a balanced budget and are a great example of what can be achieved without having a wealthy owner at the helm .
 

Snowy

Spread Eagle of Old
Joined
Oct 28, 2003
Messages
355
Location
North Essex
A good start to the campaign will build confidence. With a balanced squad and strength in depth we will need to sustain a good 10-15 game run at the start of the season.
If we do that a top 7 finish would be expected.
 

rlb999

We want 4 stands!
Joined
May 25, 2008
Messages
2,892
Location
East Midlands
Let's be honest - if we're not in contention by Christmas there will be talk of managerial changes.
I think we'll do well - if Maher is able to get in a few more to complement what we have already. Based on the signings we've seen so far I've got faith in him to do this, but whilst I agree with his strategy of pulling a few gems out of the lower leagues, I also think we'll need a couple (not a team full) of more experienced pros to keep us organised. I also like most of the attacking players we have at the club, but I don't see how they all fit together - I hope Maher et al have a plan.
I'm less worried about what Wrexham are spending. Last summer they spent £200k on one player - but that player was Ben Tozer who's a good lower league pro - nothing more. Surely a sensible club would pick up one of those on a free, and spend the £200k on improving the ground or something, rather than giving it to another club?
 

OldBlueLady

Junior Blues Coordinator⭐
Joined
Dec 27, 2007
Messages
49,072
Location
Benfleet
Just out of interest, those expecting 7th and above, what are you basing it on?
The financial side of things. It would be a disaster to remain in this league for a further season so I believe there will be huge pressure from above to ensure this doesn't happen. It's up to Kev, Benno and Darren to oversee things to make sure it doesn't.
 

Mad Cyril

Proud sponsor of Mark Molesley's white trainers⭐
Joined
Oct 29, 2003
Messages
19,790
Location
Flavour country
The financial side of things. It would be a disaster to remain in this league for a further season so I believe there will be huge pressure from above to ensure this doesn't happen. It's up to Kev, Benno and Darren to oversee things to make sure it doesn't.
Plenty of clubs have thrown money at promotion bids and failed.
 

Jai

President ⭐
Joined
Nov 27, 2003
Messages
6,473
Location
Witham
revenue from 5k plus crowds ..
This is flawed though as Roots Hall costs us a fortune to maintain and we also make very little money on matchdays through food and drink sales due to the infrastructure issues.

Not to mention that other clubs are not owned by Ron Martin, and indeed many at this level are owned by people flush with cash.
 

stewart

Striker
Joined
Dec 26, 2018
Messages
2,077
The player who kept us best organised last year had a grand total of 2 league cup appearances to his name when we signed him on loan from Sheffield Utd.
And i hope we can get him again either on loan or permanent along with his 2 team mates
 

Billy Bests boot laces

President⭐
Joined
Nov 13, 2006
Messages
6,815
A good start to the campaign will build confidence. With a balanced squad and strength in depth we will need to sustain a good 10-15 game run at the start of the season.
If we do that a top 7 finish would be expected.
I'm pretty certain come last Oct both Wrexham & Stockport weren't in the top 7?. Yet they both got their 'acts together' after that, although in Wrexham's case, not enough.
 

Jonny_Stokes

National League Tour Guide
Joined
Apr 22, 2005
Messages
4,730
Location
The EFL
Champions for me

Going for the old Orient trick of being absolutely w**k in the first year and then winning the league out of nowhere? Classic manoeuvre.

FWIW I won’t be backing against you for a top 7 finish this year. Think you’re a bit short of quality up front to go for the title, mind. 5th-9th seems realistic.
 

stewart

Striker
Joined
Dec 26, 2018
Messages
2,077
Going for the old Orient trick of being absolutely w**k in the first year and then winning the league out of nowhere? Classic manoeuvre.

FWIW I won’t be backing against you for a top 7 finish this year. Think you’re a bit short of quality up front to go for the title, mind. 5th-9th seems realistic.
Got to agree with you mate ,i also think we are short on quality up front when it comes to putting the ball in the onion bag
 

rigsby

Life President⭐
Joined
Oct 12, 2014
Messages
15,392
My worry, is we are going to end up with another Chris Powell situation.

Comes in, looks like we are going to storm the playoffs but falls short ...

Is this ringing any bells?

All this talk of "play offs at least" is just dangerous, the squad is currently not good enough. We are about 5 jigsaw pieces short ATM

Yes it is possible that we could get 14 major injuries in a season and so called fans stab the manger in the back. Then we have a succession of strange mangers, spend more than ever trying to correct crass signings and drop another 2 levels.

I’m rather hoping history doesn’t repeat itself and we finish top 7. There is a chance we won’t be finishing the season at all but one thing is certain….. Shrimpet Steve will still be my favourite one line troll.
 
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