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Nick Griffin @ Copenhagen Climate Summit

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He is attending to expose the "somewhat dodgy" evidence surrounding climate change and that it is simply a "global Marxist mantra" designed to "impose a one world government."

The BNP's website currently describes the Copenhagen Summit as an "anti-white guilt hatefest which will see billions more taxpayers' cash poured into the Third World."

I'm so pleased he is going as a UK representative... :punch:


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He is attending to expose the "somewhat dodgy" evidence surrounding climate change and that it is simply a "global Marxist mantra" designed to "impose a one world government."

The BNP's website currently describes the Copenhagen Summit as an "anti-white guilt hatefest which will see billions more taxpayers' cash poured into the Third World."

I'm so pleased he is going as a UK representative... :punch:


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If you want to take action, visit <here>

I say well done Nick for standing upto all this climate change ********

IF you want to take REAL action don't listen to the left climate change ******** squad!
 
He is attending to expose the "somewhat dodgy" evidence surrounding climate change and that it is simply a "global Marxist mantra" designed to "impose a one world government."

The BNP's website currently describes the Copenhagen Summit as an "anti-white guilt hatefest which will see billions more taxpayers' cash poured into the Third World."

I'm so pleased he is going as a UK representative... :punch:


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If you want to take action, visit <here>

Also I would rather we sort out the problems in THIS country before we go to the third world! every other continent of this planet managed to develop so why can't Africa?!?!
 
If you want to take real action, i'd suggest strapping on a pair before it's too late.
 
Also I would rather we sort out the problems in THIS country before we go to the third world! every other continent of this planet managed to develop so why can't Africa?!?!

100% correct. THIS country needs sorting out, never mind about some African who is 5000 miles away. We've got unemployment sky rocketing, lawlessness on the streets, innocent people getting shanked left right and centre, the police force is an obvious joke. How about addressing those issus first?
 
Actually he is not there to represent the UK but to be an official watcher on the behalf of the European Parliament, he will not be entitled to voice his opinion during the discussions, although of course there is no stopping him to the media, that will be dying to hear his take on the event, in the hope to create another Question Time surge with the public.

It seems to me that both sides are quick to sensationalize this, with not 100% facts.

Regarding climate change, who knows who is right, as their have been scientific evidence on both sides of the line, that it is due to humans, and another that this is just the natural progression of the cycle that the world's climate takes.

My view is that although I have no proof, what does it hurt to be a little more green where the pros outweigh the cons.
 
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He is attending to expose the "somewhat dodgy" evidence surrounding climate change and that it is simply a "global Marxist mantra" designed to "impose a one world government."

The BNP's website currently describes the Copenhagen Summit as an "anti-white guilt hatefest which will see billions more taxpayers' cash poured into the Third World."

I'm so pleased he is going as a UK representative... :punch:


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If you want to take action, visit <here>
ooh, what a nasty ******* that nick griffin is for daring to air his views... I bet if it was someone stating something was anti-black, you'd be metaphorically ******* his **** like a lollipop.
 
Also I would rather we sort out the problems in THIS country before we go to the third world! every other continent of this planet managed to develop so why can't Africa?!?!


You are aware if any part of climate change is even vaguely correct (and there is a lot more here then just the planet getting hotter ) COUNTRIES WILL CEASE TO EXISIT . full stop end game millions upon millions will die , and teh needs of individual countries will be pointless. Who give s a flying **** on politics if there is the possibility of mass deaths across all spices , flora and forna on this planet

We need facts on both sides , we need to know whats going to happen , and we dont need people arguing the toss of any kind of social/economic/political systems in place if catastrophic environment events are going to occur.

And for local weather we are 4 C higher then the usual average in December :P
 
He is attending to expose the "somewhat dodgy" evidence surrounding climate change and that it is simply a "global Marxist mantra" designed to "impose a one world government."

The BNP's website currently describes the Copenhagen Summit as an "anti-white guilt hatefest which will see billions more taxpayers' cash poured into the Third World."

I'm so pleased he is going as a UK representative... :punch:


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If you want to take action, visit <here>

I find the idea of basing my views on climate change, or anything else for that matter, simply on whether Nick Griffin is for or against, bizarre.
 
You are aware if any part of climate change is even vaguely correct (and there is a lot more here then just the planet getting hotter ) COUNTRIES WILL CEASE TO EXISIT . full stop end game millions upon millions will die , and teh needs of individual countries will be pointless. Who give s a flying **** on politics if there is the possibility of mass deaths across all spices , flora and forna on this planet

We need facts on both sides , we need to know whats going to happen , and we dont need people arguing the toss of any kind of social/economic/political systems in place if catastrophic environment events are going to occur.

And for local weather we are 4 C higher then the usual average in December :P

Two days into December and its 4 degrees higher than average. What more proof of climate change do we need? I'm a convert.
 
You are aware if any part of climate change is even vaguely correct (and there is a lot more here then just the planet getting hotter ) COUNTRIES WILL CEASE TO EXISIT . full stop end game millions upon millions will die , and teh needs of individual countries will be pointless. Who give s a flying **** on politics if there is the possibility of mass deaths across all spices , flora and forna on this planet

We need facts on both sides , we need to know whats going to happen , and we dont need people arguing the toss of any kind of social/economic/political systems in place if catastrophic environment events are going to occur.

And for local weather we are 4 C higher then the usual average in December :P

Yes I do know this - I don't need to be told by somebody who dresses like he works for Tesco but anyway my counter argument was about his point regarding aid to Africa not climate change - please read the post in future treacle
 
Two days into December and its 4 degrees higher than average. What more proof of climate change do we need? I'm a convert.

Me too , I'm already wearing my socialist Hessian itchy survival cardigan made from recycled kettles and urine bottles . I welcome our marxist overloads with nothing but open hands :D
 
Yes I do know this - I don't need to be told by somebody who dresses like he works for Tesco but anyway my counter argument was about his point regarding aid to Africa not climate change - please read the post in future treacle

Mine also covers it (the economic social part if you read mine) and Scott if you judge entirely on ascetics, your either a fashion designer in waiting or maybe in need of questioning a few my things around you.
 
every other continent of this planet managed to develop so why can't Africa?!?!

This is a great question, the kind of question that you could write a book about. We haven't got room for a book, so let's have a few quick possible answers.

First of all though , not every continent managed to develop like Europe. The Native Americans, the Incans, the Mayans, the Aztecs etc were all about 500 years behind the Europeans in 1500. In fact, oddly enough, I don't think the Aztecs ever managed to invent the wheel. The Aboriginies and the Maoris were on a similar level and China's decision to shut down their borders and scrap their navy stopped their technological advance at a stroke, mainly because....

1, Technological advancement is often the result of the kind of widespread exchange of ideas that only comes with immigration. Or emigration, depending on your perspective. In Europe, people moved about quite easily, particularly to England which has a good record of opening its doors to anyone in trouble like Jews, French aristocracy, fleeing Protestants and, in recent years, Blacks and Asians. New people, new ideas, new inventions. Africa is far bigger, the population is more spread out and long journeys are a far bigger pain in the arse.

2, War, as Trotsky once said, is the locomotive of change. Europe has been at war, in one way or another, on a near constant basis for 2000 years. Necessity is the mother of invention and, as Samuel L Jackson once said, when it's absolutely necessary to kill every mother ****er in the room, you need to be inventing some pretty tasty weapons. Europe got really good at the killing game.

Ultimately though, it's pretty tricky for a society to advance when some heavily tooled up white buggers turn up and take the strongest men away in cages to work on sugar farms on Santa Domingo. It gets even more difficult when they impose their own puppet governments, strip your nation of resources and take all the money back home with them. Then, to make matters worse, when there's no money to spend, they really **** you over by lending you some at nasty rates of interest, the kind of rates of interest that can only really be serviced by taking another loan....

Now, I'm not making this a blame-the-white-man game, but it has to be said that we haven't exactly helped.
 
This is a great question, the kind of question that you could write a book about. We haven't got room for a book, so let's have a few quick possible answers.

First of all though , not every continent managed to develop like Europe. The Native Americans, the Incans, the Mayans, the Aztecs etc were all about 500 years behind the Europeans in 1500. In fact, oddly enough, I don't think the Aztecs ever managed to invent the wheel. The Aboriginies and the Maoris were on a similar level and China's decision to shut down their borders and scrap their navy stopped their technological advance at a stroke, mainly because....

1, Technological advancement is often the result of the kind of widespread exchange of ideas that only comes with immigration. Or emigration, depending on your perspective. In Europe, people moved about quite easily, particularly to England which has a good record of opening its doors to anyone in trouble like Jews, French aristocracy, fleeing Protestants and, in recent years, Blacks and Asians. New people, new ideas, new inventions. Africa is far bigger, the population is more spread out and long journeys are a far bigger pain in the arse.

2, War, as Trotsky once said, is the locomotive of change. Europe has been at war, in one way or another, on a near constant basis for 2000 years. Necessity is the mother of invention and, as Samuel L Jackson once said, when it's absolutely necessary to kill every mother ****er in the room, you need to be inventing some pretty tasty weapons. Europe got really good at the killing game.

Ultimately though, it's pretty tricky for a society to advance when some heavily tooled up white buggers turn up and take the strongest men away in cages to work on sugar farms on Santa Domingo. It gets even more difficult when they impose their own puppet governments, strip your nation of resources and take all the money back home with them. Then, to make matters worse, when there's no money to spend, they really **** you over by lending you some at nasty rates of interest, the kind of rates of interest that can only really be serviced by taking another loan....

Now, I'm not making this a blame-the-white-man game, but it has to be said that we haven't exactly helped.


Should also point out that 1) Horses were not native to the south Americas or anything like them , however as Cortez found for the Aztec's it was ripe for revolution and after getting a littled blooded he got the best fighters to join him (cannon and Calvary work great in open plans , but in closed in cities , and jungles their a bit crap)
2) The Mayans and Aztec's created agriculture , and architecture that made anything in Europe look well crap to honest (those pyramids in Mexico are a nice example). TEchnilocial advancement is also generally driven by necessity. If you culture don't need it it doesn't come about.

As for Africa , you've never heard of Egypt ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nubia
 
This is a great question, the kind of question that you could write a book about. We haven't got room for a book, so let's have a few quick possible answers.

First of all though , not every continent managed to develop like Europe. The Native Americans, the Incans, the Mayans, the Aztecs etc were all about 500 years behind the Europeans in 1500. In fact, oddly enough, I don't think the Aztecs ever managed to invent the wheel. The Aboriginies and the Maoris were on a similar level and China's decision to shut down their borders and scrap their navy stopped their technological advance at a stroke, mainly because....

1, Technological advancement is often the result of the kind of widespread exchange of ideas that only comes with immigration. Or emigration, depending on your perspective. In Europe, people moved about quite easily, particularly to England which has a good record of opening its doors to anyone in trouble like Jews, French aristocracy, fleeing Protestants and, in recent years, Blacks and Asians. New people, new ideas, new inventions. Africa is far bigger, the population is more spread out and long journeys are a far bigger pain in the arse.

2, War, as Trotsky once said, is the locomotive of change. Europe has been at war, in one way or another, on a near constant basis for 2000 years. Necessity is the mother of invention and, as Samuel L Jackson once said, when it's absolutely necessary to kill every mother ****er in the room, you need to be inventing some pretty tasty weapons. Europe got really good at the killing game.

Ultimately though, it's pretty tricky for a society to advance when some heavily tooled up white buggers turn up and take the strongest men away in cages to work on sugar farms on Santa Domingo. It gets even more difficult when they impose their own puppet governments, strip your nation of resources and take all the money back home with them. Then, to make matters worse, when there's no money to spend, they really **** you over by lending you some at nasty rates of interest, the kind of rates of interest that can only really be serviced by taking another loan....

Now, I'm not making this a blame-the-white-man game, but it has to be said that we haven't exactly helped.

I find almost all your posts concise and well balanced and I mean this from the heart and it pains me almost to ask this but can you tell me just what Black Africa has given the world in say the last 500 years. Other than Aids of course. I was just wondering what wonderful invention or innovation the rest of the world has benefited from those nations who seem to rely on International Aid and charity handouts. I mean, it was on the radio today that the UK gives £20 million a year to Zimbabwee which used to be the bread basket of Africa (profitable farms owned and run by white farmers who provided work and homes to their workers) to the most corrupt country in the world (farms snatched back and given to 'war vetrans' who have worse than run them into the ground)

I wonder if you caught the Victoria Derbyshire reports from Zimbabwee on 5 Live today. Its still going on but the 'war vets' seem to be getting younger. So young in fact that some of them are in their 20's which, if my maths are correct, would make them no even thought of when the 'war' was even in full flow. At least -10 years if I can count. Inflation at 1 million%, unemployment at 85%, rigged elections, beatings, rapes and murders during the elections. Come on people, dig deep and sling another couple of million at these deserving causes, Lenny Henry will be so grateful.

Those great ads were on the telly this morning, sponsor a child for £15 a month, so he can be schooled, fed and watered. He can't drink fresh water because his father is to busy banging his old lady to knock out another mouth to feed and is too knackered to dig his own sodding well. But of course theres plenty of bleeding heart students on gap years who prance off over there to do it for them before they join a company who probably drains them more than they do themselves.

Lets have a quick count up of the ads on the telly for the victims of the Cumbria Floods. How many was it now? Ah, but they would be insured wouldn't they. Well some insurance companies are pulling the old 'Act of God' one out of the bag so some people, our own people are facing complete ruin. Isn't it about time we helped our own before others and isn't it about time we stopped wringing our hands about something that happened centuries ago. When we start demanding compensation and apoligies from Romans and Vikings then I might consider bowing down to every other sob story in the world.
 
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