• Welcome to the ShrimperZone forums.
    You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which only gives you limited access.

    Existing Users:.
    Please log-in using your existing username and password. If you have any problems, please see below.

    New Users:
    Join our free community now and gain access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and free. Click here to join.

    Fans from other clubs
    We welcome and appreciate supporters from other clubs who wish to engage in sensible discussion. Please feel free to join as above but understand that this is a moderated site and those who cannot play nicely will be quickly removed.

    Assistance Required
    For help with the registration process or accessing your account, please send a note using the Contact us link in the footer, please include your account name. We can then provide you with a new password and verification to get you on the site.

EastStandBlue

Life President
Joined
May 29, 2005
Messages
15,519
Manny Pacquiao sent out a warning shot to Floyd Mayweather Junior by drubbing Joshua Clottey, taking the African apart in twelve long, gruelling rounds.

The only reason this fight was scheduled was because of the row over drug testing between Pacquiao and Mayweather, with Mayweather facing Sugar Shane Molesley on May 1, and Pacquiao urged the American to resolve their differences and step up for what would be the biggest fight of the decade.

Clottey danced his way into the ring in typical Ghanaian fashion, showing absolutely no signs of being phased by the sheer dominance of Pacquiao. The African must have left his dancing shoes outside the ring, as he was pummelled for large parts of the fight.

Pac-Man came out of the traps in traditional fashion, aiming a number of blows below Clottey’s defence and into his stomach. Before the fight, Freddie Roach spoke at great length as to how Clottey’s defence restricts both his view and his defensive line and it looked to be a masterful spot.

The Phillipino gave away nigh on fifteen pounds but showed no signs of it, his dominance continuing throughout. Pacquiao mounted pressure in the second and third rounds, however he was shaken by Clottey’s signature right hand in the third, the African landing several heavy shots that had Roach making adjustments to the game plan.

The longer the bout was contested, the stronger Pacquiao grew and his rapid-fire combination shots were beginning to tell as early as the fifth round, Clottey visibly tiring. His defence stood firm, however, provoking Pacquiao to adopt a change in stance and almost draw him into attacks.

By the eighth round, Clottey was still seemingly absorbing the multitude of piston-powered punches Pacquiao was showering him with and even beginning to mount a challenge himself. That challenge was soon stopped in its tracks, Pacquiao responding with a vociferous combination.

In truth, the fight was over a long time before the twelfth round was called. Pacquiao utterly dominated the contender who showed little of what he is capable of. Every time Clottey showed an ounce of endeavour, Pacquiao responded by severing the momentum within a heartbeat. The 50,000 watching at the state of the art Cowboys Stadium in Texas were almost willing Clottey on at the last, but this was a foregone conclusion.

Talk will now fall onto the prospect of super fight between Pacquiao and Mayweather, something that has a definite sense of inevitability surrounding it now. The self proclaimed people’s champion of the Philippines won’t have it so easy then.
 
I still haven't seen this fight yet, but from the reports i've read, it was pretty much what i thought it would be. Pacman; superior in all skill/technical departments up against a tough guy who'll stand there and take it.

Pacman was always going to find it difficult to KO Clottey, a man who has not been stopped before, but on the flip side, Clottey was always going to find it difficult to do enough to win the fight.

Mayweather should destroy Molesley in May, which will, again, set up one of the biggest superfights of the last decade. Hopefully this time, negotiations can go smoothly and we'll see an October/November date.
 
I highly doubt it...

It's typical Mayweather pre-fight babble.

I personally think it's brilliant mind games from the Mayweather camp. And i say camp, because i don't think it's Floyd that has primarily said it.

It's a known fact that Roger Mayweather is one of the smartest men in boxing when it comes to tactics, especially his 'underhand' tactics. We've seen it before. He was the one who planted the seed of doubt into Joe Cortez's head about Ricky Hatton's "dirty fighting". Then, low and behold, fight night, Joe Cortez is very quick to stop Ricky Hatton getting inside and building momentum.

To me, this is an eloborate way of either;

i) getting the fight postponed, so Floyd can have one more 'warm-up' match

ii) getting into Pacman's head.

A few people have said Mayweather was scared to face Manny, and these allegations were a cover for it. I don't believe it for a second. Mayweather is the best boxer on the planet. He also has the best 'trainers/tacticians' in the world to back that up.

On a seperate note ESB, what's your predictions for the Pacman-Mayweather showdown
 
I personally think it's brilliant mind games from the Mayweather camp. And i say camp, because i don't think it's Floyd that has primarily said it.

It's a known fact that Roger Mayweather is one of the smartest men in boxing when it comes to tactics, especially his 'underhand' tactics. We've seen it before. He was the one who planted the seed of doubt into Joe Cortez's head about Ricky Hatton's "dirty fighting". Then, low and behold, fight night, Joe Cortez is very quick to stop Ricky Hatton getting inside and building momentum.

To me, this is an eloborate way of either;

i) getting the fight postponed, so Floyd can have one more 'warm-up' match

ii) getting into Pacman's head.

A few people have said Mayweather was scared to face Manny, and these allegations were a cover for it. I don't believe it for a second. Mayweather is the best boxer on the planet. He also has the best 'trainers/tacticians' in the world to back that up.

On a seperate note ESB, what's your predictions for the Pacman-Mayweather showdown

Pacquiao, Unanimous decision.

I've seen Pac Man's last nine fights. While he's never really been 'got at' as such, I've yet to identify a single flaw in his game... He's as close to perfect a technical fighter across the lower weight divisions you can get. He's quick, aerobically supreme, intelligent, disciplined and he packs a punch. Pacquiao apparently spars in excess of 400 rounds a week as he prepares for a fight which is unheard of in boxing circles.

The drug testing is a way to get at Pacquiao's pre-fight regime... Roach is meticulous in his planning and Manny is apparently verging on OCD with his training and rituals. By forcing random drug testing on him, it breaks his concentration ever so slightly. The accusations in the media were an attempt to force Manny to sign the contract, as if he had nothing to hide, whilst accepting random testing.

Personally, I think FMJ is terrified of Pacquiao, but he'll never admit it. FMJ's been the pound-for-pound king for years, selling out casinos up and down the strip. A Phillipino comes pretty much out of the shadows with no apparent weakness to threaten his reign and his pride/arrogance is on the line.

What's interesting is, stripped bare, they're pretty much identical fighters. They both rely on supreme pace and athleticism, technically outclassing opponents first before even thinking about knocking them out.

Ultimately, it'll go down to the fight plan and Roach just about edges it for me. He's right up there with Angelo Dundee and almost every bout a fighter of his is involved in he predicts with frightening accuracy. He sees things others don't, and I think he'll have Mayweather figured out.
 
What's interesting is, stripped bare, they're pretty much identical fighters. They both rely on supreme pace and athleticism, technically outclassing opponents first before even thinking about knocking them out.

Agree here. However, this is where i think FMJ will triumph. Here's why;

In his fights with Roach as his trainer, Manny has been disciplined to military pricision. But against Mayweather he will be up against an opponent who is equally, if not more disciplined than him. Manny has shown in his last few fights that he is willing to take his time and pick his shots when he wants. All he has to do is wait for the right time so-to-speak.

No disrespect to the fighters he (Pacman) has fought at 140-147, but their gameplan played right into his hands. They are all very similar. They were all tough guys, who want to explode and 'bully' The Pacman with their power. Manny just sits back (he does have a sterling defence) and waits for the right moment.

I really cannot see him being able to do this against Floyd.

FMJ will no doubt deploy his usual get-in-get-out tactic, and i can see this frustrating Manny. For the first time at that weight, Pacman will have to 'chase' his opponent, and it's something i can't see him doing well.

There's no way FMJ will change his gameplan. He'll be the same old Floyd. So in that respect, Pacman will be the one to switch to a more aggresive style. Pacman has shown signs of his aggresive stance and has been rocked a few times in his last few fights, which tells me that it isn't his best option.

FMJ does have the power to deliver a KO to Pacman, but i forsee a points win for Mayweather.
 
Back
Top