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Predatory 13yo girls?

Yorkshire Blue

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Well the fact this case has seemingly prompted a review of how child sex cases are handled, a new system with specially trained judges is being introduced and that the CPS is now looking at this particular case to increase the sentence suggests that all is not well...

Or is it that Lord Judge being politically savvy because he knows there are going to be a lot of idiot reactions and the best way to fend them off is to call for a review/inquiry and by the time the results are available everybody will have forgotten about it?

This isn't a review of that decision, it's a review of the process in general.

Court cases are an adversarial process in which parties have competing aims. That one party is unhappy with the outcome really isn't telling because if everyone was in agreement you wouldn't need a court case. The CPS don't have a monopoly on justice and just because they may be unhappy with the outcome (note they are currently just looking at it, rather than saying they are actually unhappy with it) doesn't mean it's unjust.

Trial by court is a far superior method to trial by media.

Could you clarify a little. Without knowing the ins and outs of the case do you also back the judge in his sentencing of the offender?

At the end of the day the comments were wholly wrong to have been made in a court of law about a child. What's far more disturbing to me is the fact that those involved in the sentencing of the offender seem to have forgotten that the guy was 41 years old at the time of the offence and regardless of how much he was egged on, regardless of how much of a sexual predator the girl was, and regardless of the circumstances at the time he's and adult, she's a child and he could of and should of just walked away. End of story. Should have got a minimum 10 year stretch IMO

Without knowing the ins and outs of the case I really can't offer a valid opinion of the sentencing.

What if the girl was 13 years and 364 days old at the time, but looked considerably older. What if the man had been in a nightclub when they first met which had a strict 18 and over policy. What if the girl had hit on the bloke, told him she was 19 and offered to drive him home before dragging him out to the toilet and given him a blow job. Would the man deserve your minimum 10 year stretch in those circumstances?
 

Napster

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Court cases are an adversarial process in which parties have competing aims. That one party is unhappy with the outcome really isn't telling because if everyone was in agreement you wouldn't need a court case. The CPS don't have a monopoly on justice and just because they may be unhappy with the outcome (note they are currently just looking at it, rather than saying they are actually unhappy with it) doesn't mean it's unjust.

Depends how the defendant pleads.
 

MK Shrimper

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Without knowing the ins and outs of the case I really can't offer a valid opinion of the sentencing.

What if the girl was 13 years and 364 days old at the time, but looked considerably older. What if the man had been in a nightclub when they first met which had a strict 18 and over policy. What if the girl had hit on the bloke, told him she was 19 and offered to drive him home before dragging him out to the toilet and given him a blow job. Would the man deserve your minimum 10 year stretch in those circumstances?

Maybe not 10 years, but laws are still broken and therefore a punishment should be metered out. The legal age is 16, not 13yrs 364 days or even 15yrs 364 days.

If a man (or woman) cannot be sure of the age of the person they're about to engage in a sexual act with then I suggest the sexual act is not carried out.
 

Yorkshire Blue

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Maybe not 10 years, but laws are still broken and therefore a punishment should be metered out. The legal age is 16, not 13yrs 364 days or even 15yrs 364 days.

If a man (or woman) cannot be sure of the age of the person they're about to engage in a sexual act with then I suggest the sexual act is not carried out.

What if the girl lies as to her age?

Have you asked to see the passport of every female you've slept with?
 
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