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'President Putin 'probably' approved Litvinenko murder'

Hmmm,

Probably ordered it !,

So you think diplomatic relations should be soured further still by accusing another leader of probable murder and handing out even more sanctions.

I am glad you are not a politician because WW3 springs to mind.

It really doesn't matter what I think because the 'accusing' has already been done by a judicial enquiry and the Russian Gov't has responded. But, to answer your question, do I believe that famous people should get away with ordering someone's murder, then no they shouldn't, any more than if someone not famous commits or orders a murder. As for your last comment, I can't think of an answer that will dignify it, so I won't.
 
If we carry on like this with Putin he might end up having a public inquiry in Russia over the death of Dr David Kelly.


True,

Russian /English spy murdered,bet most of the population doesn't care,now how did Saville escape for so long without being noticed nicked is something the majority want to know.
 
This enquiry was led by Sir Robert Owen, a respected High Court Judge. Sir Robert wrote:

"Taking full account of all the evidence and analysis available to me, I find that the FSB operation to kill Litvinenko was probably approved by Mr Patrushev and also by President Putin,"

That's a pretty damning statement of a World leader and not one you see every day. Let's see whether the Government now have the gonads to do anything which amounts to sanctions, or just wring their hands and say it's not fair. After all Litvinenko was in the process of being offered British Citizenship when he was topped, and was assisting MI6.

The main problem with the criminal investigation is the 2 main suspects won't be extradited over here to be questioned by the ruskies because "it's not in their constitution" (in other words they dont want to!).
 
The main problem with the criminal investigation is the 2 main suspects won't be extradited over here to be questioned by the ruskies because "it's not in their constitution" (in other words they dont want to!).

Realistically, they will probably never be bought over here to answer any charges. But there again there was a time when I didn't think the Libyan Lockerbie bomber would ever be appear in front of a Scottish court, but he did eventually.
 
Realistically, they will probably never be bought over here to answer any charges. But there again there was a time when I didn't think the Libyan Lockerbie bomber would ever be appear in front of a Scottish court, but he did eventually.

Even if they did we would never get a conviction. Even if we changed the law and found them guilty on the balance of probability, they would never name Putin in any way.

Its taken ten years to finally say what everyone knew even while he was dying in Hospital. The rest of the world won't care and nor we will we in less than a month. I'd be happy for a world cup boycott for a number of reason to do with Russia but very few would agree with me.
 
Realistically, they will probably never be bought over here to answer any charges. But there again there was a time when I didn't think the Libyan Lockerbie bomber would ever be appear in front of a Scottish court, but he did eventually.


You mean the guy who probably never did it but was the fall guy,who then was released with the authorities stating he only had months to live,lasted a few more year's though !
 
You mean the guy who probably never did it but was the fall guy,who then was released with the authorities stating he only had months to live,lasted a few more year's though !

Conspiracy theories seem to feature very highly in your world don't they. A Scottish Court held in the Hague found the guy guilty.
 
Conspiracy theories seem to feature very highly in your world don't they. A Scottish Court held in the Hague found the guy guilty.


Many politicians and families of the victims all believe the guy was innocent!

Look it up !
 
After reading post 10 on this thread I thought you would be,sorry my mistake.

This thread is about the findings of the enquiry into Alexander Litvinenko's murder and it's impact on the Russian hierarchy. Post #10 was asking for discussion on that, not your conspiracy theories on the Lockerbie bomber's guilt.
 
This thread is about the findings of the enquiry into Alexander Litvinenko's murder and it's impact on the Russian hierarchy. Post #10 was asking for discussion on that, not your conspiracy theories on the Lockerbie bomber's guilt.


Actually you brought up Lockerbie !,so I responded to your post.
 
This thread is about the findings of the enquiry into Alexander Litvinenko's murder and it's impact on the Russian hierarchy. Post #10 was asking for discussion on that, not your conspiracy theories on the Lockerbie bomber's guilt.

I did try, if you want to respond
 
Actually you brought up Lockerbie !,so I responded to your post.

My context for Lockerbie had nothing to do with guilt or lack of it.

I did try, if you want to respond

You don't think that anything will be done as a result of the enquiry's findings, but you did think that Russia should lose the World Cup. I think you're right on both counts and they won't have to answer charges and Russia won't lose the world Cup. Is any of that right? Not in my book, but my view counts for nothing.
 
To be fair to mrsblue, the Lockerbie bombing could have been a huge miscarriage of justice. Paul Foot wrote about it at some length in the Eye.
 
To be fair to mrsblue, the Lockerbie bombing could have been a huge miscarriage of justice. Paul Foot wrote about it at some length in the Eye.

Maybe, but that was not the point of the Lockerbie reference.
 
Maybe, but that was not the point of the Lockerbie reference.


What was your point then?

Seemed to me you thought because the guy was convicted it was pass the drinks around time ?,maybe I misunderstood.

Back to Putin,

We will do absolutely nothing,whether 2 agents killed another agent is in reality not relevant to the UK people,the government cannot do anything for many reasons,the court case was a circus,sadly for the guys family IMO .
 
To be fair to mrsblue, the Lockerbie bombing could have been a huge miscarriage of justice. Paul Foot wrote about it at some length in the Eye.


Thank's Naps,

I thought the guy was a spy?,who was framed?
 
To be fair to mrsblue, the Lockerbie bombing could have been a huge miscarriage of justice. Paul Foot wrote about it at some length in the Eye.

Not another delusional conspiracy theory. Next it will be Princess Diana or even 9/11
 
Not another delusional conspiracy theory. Next it will be Princess Diana or even 9/11


Please can we stay on topic because RHB will blow his head fuse,and don't get me started on PD:winking:
 
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