'President Putin 'probably' approved Litvinenko murder'

[Spaceman Spiff]

I’m surprised so many of you have swallowed the “must be the Russians coz their all bad” conspiracy theory.

So my question to you is how did anyone survive if it really was a nerve agent attack.?

Not difficult Rigsby. Just like coffee, you can have it strong or weak. Water Novichok down a touch and it’s safer to transport, means victims won’t die on the spot where they come into contact (and therefore you make investigation and cleanup far, far harder) and it may also be harder to detect either on site or going through security, depending on the substance. I would suggest that in this case the thinking was to make proving what happened as hard as possible

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

rigsby, you still haven't answered the point that Charlie Rowley must be in on it, as he must have lied about the poison perfume spray bottle, pictured here from The Sun. They must be in it as well, Lol, or fooled by fake British Government story.

 

[rigsby]

I wasn’t personally involved Rigsby, but I do know how policing works - rather well, as it happens. I choose to phrase my understanding of events that I was not personally a party to in a way that gives room for alternatives to be possible. That doesn’t make my assessment wrong, if anything it adds credence to analysis if you implicitly or explicitly allow room for manoeuvre without full proof of all facts.

Analysis and room for manoeuvre is exactly what hasn’t happened in This case.....It must be the Russians was the only option from day one.

 

[rigsby]

And th


And this is where our opinions fork. I’m not disagreeing with anything you’ve written, it’s just that it doesn’t add up to an explanation, that is beyond reasonable doubt.

I’m open to being convinced otherwise, but like most of the conspiracy theories these days, they’re mostly based on conjecture & circumstantial evidence.

You alluded to your expertise & experience about chemicals earlier in the thread, which was quite interesting, but as you know, anecdotal evidence is banned from discussions here ;)

I’m not saying my theory is correct, just the official Story can’t be. Who knows what a government or the people who really select who will govern us are up to it was just a suggestion.

I have spoke to people including current and ex serving High ranking Firefighters, some of which had high security clearance and none of them have seen anything, from our point of view, that looks like there is any reality to this story.

Random people wondering around without any protection in the “Hot” zone would be a discipline case in the real world.

If you drove past the park and saw a group of lads having a kick about with jumpers for goalposts posts.....Could I convince you that it was really a L1 fixture.

 

[rigsby]

Not difficult Rigsby. Just like coffee, you can have it strong or weak. Water Novichok down a touch and it’s safer to transport, means victims won’t die on the spot where they come into contact (and therefore you make investigation and cleanup far, far harder) and it may also be harder to detect either on site or going through security, depending on the substance. I would suggest that in this case the thinking was to make proving what happened as hard as possible

So now we have Novichok light..... I bet it gives guidance for children under 5 as well .

 

[rigsby]

rigsby, you still haven't answered the point that Charlie Rowley must be in on it, as he must have lied about the poison perfume spray bottle, pictured here from The Sun. They must be in it as well, Lol, or fooled by fake British Government story.

This is totally fake news. The Sun would not have access to any evidence.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I’m done with this now. It’s beyond pointless trying to get someone to see sense who has clearly decided not to, no matter what. Have fun reading the legit news on RT Riggers.

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

I’m done with this now. It’s beyond pointless trying to get someone to see sense who has clearly decided not to, no matter what. Have fun reading the legit news on RT Riggers.

Sorry you've given up Spaceman. I'm actually finding it interesting how riggers swerves questions and comes out with other stuff to help his conspiracy theory. Very politician like.

 

[rigsby]

I’m done with this now. It’s beyond pointless trying to get someone to see sense who has clearly decided not to, no matter what. Have fun reading the legit news on RT Riggers.

Its not about one person having to win the debate.

Lots of people can now accept the fact that their government lies to them....Remember that evidence about WMD in Iraq...... Others have Cognitive Dissonance,

 

[rigsby]

Sorry you've given up Spaceman. I'm actually finding it interesting how riggers swerves questions and comes out with other stuff to help his conspiracy theory. Very politician like.

So why have people survived?
Why did the so called emergency services not have to wear the right protection?
Why was their no portable showers to wash down anyone who had been in the zone?
Why was their no decontamination procedures with on site scientific advice?
Why did aerial photos of the Skripals house only ever have a few police cars or out of date ambulances parked near by....Whilst searches where being made.?
Why did aerial photos of Charlie Rowley.s house have just the same vehicles for his search?
Why wasn't the whole street evacuated in each case.?
Why are these the worst agents in history?
Why haven't the specialist team of up to 250 police come up with all this CCTV for 5months?
Why have ambulances been taken to special landfill sites months after the event?
Why wasn't AE closed or decontaminated if that was the case ?
Why were people told to use baby wipes to clean their own clothes.?

 

[rigsby]

Well done Spaceman your theory jogged my memory.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAKgPdkkiCg

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

The Russian cover up has just made them look even more guilty. First Putin asks them to come forward(fake. They were already there). Putin then says they are just normal civilians(but they are known Russian agents) They then appear on Russian state funded TV, saying they wanted to visit the world famous Salisbury(hardly world famous), to visit the Cathedral and see the spire and clock. The problem is that CCTV shows them going up to the Skripal residence on the 3rd, then turning around and going back. That was the practice run. Then they do the same on the 4th, when the Skripals are poisoned, and bolt back to Russia. Reports today also suggest the CCTV shows they never went near the Cathedral.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

The Russians are quite clearly taking the ****.Russian citizens can't be extradicted anyway.Putin and the Russian government are just having a larf at Mrs May's expense.

 

[MK Shrimper]

2 more have fallen seriously ill in Salisbury at the same restaraunt that the Skripals attended. World War 3 anyone?

 

[rigsby]

I wouldn't panic just yet. One fire engine parked inside the cordon means it cant be anything remotely serious.

 

[rigsby]

The Russians are quite clearly taking the ****.Russian citizens can't be extradicted anyway.Putin and the Russian government are just having a larf at Mrs May's expense.

Someone is definitely having a laugh. last night it was announced as a major incident (50 casualties or more). When it clearly never was. Still there was some nice fancy dress medical outfits on show.

 

[Lord Football]

I never saw the "50 casualties" reported, but it does seem anytime everyone has a bigger than usual poo in a Salisbury restaurant the alarms bells go.....

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

I never saw the "50 casualties" reported, but it does seem anytime everyone has a bigger than usual poo in a Salisbury restaurant the alarms bells go.....

Well you can't blame the authorities for being a bit jumpy can you? after all one member of public dead and another was seriously ill way after the initial incident - which of course didn't happen...

 

[rigsby]

So the two Russian agents arrived by train in Salisbury after the Skripals had left their house Which means they could not have sprayed Novichok on the front door. Or if they did that's not what poisoned the Skripals but did poisoned the detective sergeant,,,,mmmmm

They had used their own names and passports to get visas to visit Britain and stayed in a hotel in Bow, The police knew this back in May and raided the hotel and found traces of Novichok…..Didn't tell the manager, the cleaners or any of the guests who stayed in the room after that it had been contaminated with the worlds most deadly nerve agent...….mmmm

The Skripals both turned their phone off for a 4 hour period whilst out and about on that day....mmmmm

The Skripals don't want to talk about it to anyone...….Shouldn't we be looking to see if they are in fact up to something....

Did they meet these two alleged agents?
Did they meet someone else and get contaminated by mistake?
Could they be working for any number of groups or even a Russian individual?
Someone gone rogue who works for Porton Down?

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

The new Bond comes out next year