Promotion and relegation 2019/20 season

[Grayson]

You know that how exactly? Twice non payment of wages, one illegible player. I don't wish it at all but I don't stick my fingers in my ears and hope it'll go away quietly.

You made the outlandish claim of there being a 'very good chance' something that has never happened before will happen to us, and then put the required burden of proof on the person disagreeing. How does that work?! Great response by kentblues anyway.

 

[MK Shrimper]

You made the outlandish claim of there being a 'very good chance' something that has never happened before will happen to us, and then put the required burden of proof on the person disagreeing. How does that work?! Great response by kentblues anyway.

Macclesfield got fined 6 points in January for non payment of wages. So it has happened.

Macclesfield docked six points by EFL

Macclesfield Town are docked six points by the English Football League after pleading guilty to charges over non-payment of wages and failing to fulfil their fixture with Crewe.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[yogi bear up the cagire]

Macclesfield got fined 6 points in January for non payment of wages. So it has happened.

Macclesfield docked six points by EFL

Macclesfield Town are docked six points by the English Football League after pleading guilty to charges over non-payment of wages and failing to fulfil their fixture with Crewe.

www.bbc.co.uk

I rest my case m'lord!

 

[Medway Blue]

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Macclesfield got fined 6 points in January for non payment of wages. So it has happened.

Macclesfield docked six points by EFL

Macclesfield Town are docked six points by the English Football League after pleading guilty to charges over non-payment of wages and failing to fulfil their fixture with Crewe.

www.bbc.co.uk

Have you read the article? They failed to fulfil a fixture. That is a major, major difference to us.

 

[Lester Bangs]

I was also under the impression from what had been reported in the local media that the 2020-21 season would start with a points deduction.

I'd be delighted to be proved wrong on this but I'm bracing myself for the EFL investigation to find us contravening the rules and instigate such a punishment.

 

[MK Shrimper]

I was also under the impression from what had been reported in the local media that the 2020-21 season would start with a points deduction.

I'd be delighted to be proved wrong on this but I'm bracing myself for the EFL investigation to find us contravening the rules and instigate such a punishment.

^^^ this everyday.

 

[Evening Echo]

THE Government must underwrite a new body to protect clubs in the English Football League from going under in the coronavirus pandemic, a new report says.

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[kentblues]

it has now been additionally pointed out that rule changes proposed by the EFL has another potential issue- the EFL is prohibited from imposing the rule changes for this season by their own Articles of Association (Arts 13 & 14.5), they would have to apply from next.

It is clear the whole EFL approach is based on the gamble there is no legal challenge.

That gamble will definitely work with the Sunderland’s and Peterborough’s as the legal action would simply result in promotions and relegations not happening- not them getting promoted instead. Might not work with a Tranmere, Stevenage or L1 relegation club

 

[kentblues]

I was also under the impression from what had been reported in the local media that the 2020-21 season would start with a points deduction.

I'd be delighted to be proved wrong on this but I'm bracing myself for the EFL investigation to find us contravening the rules and instigate such a punishment.

Can you please share this local media report? Would be good to see it/ investigate - clearly someone is suggesting some transcretion other than the two mentioned? I don’t recall seeing the report

 

[Austin the Shrimper]

So if we are being judged the same as Macclesfield then we should only get a 3 to 4 point deduction. We never missed any fixtures and they failed to pay players on multiple occasions throughout the season, had several winding ups orders and their players refused to play. We are already being relegated when mathematically still had a chance to stay up...surely that's punishment enough?

 

[BriggBlue]

We are not one of the clubs that’s I heard, by all accounts we have had issues but we are definsatyerly not one of the 6 clubs in very bad shape.

The re financing that has been done and of course the FF news will buy us some time for sure, however as Ron has always kept us going even if he is moving Peter to past Paul

I suspected things might have improved a bit hence the new contracts being handed out, something which must be a bit of rarity at the moment, perhaps something for the PFA and EFL to bear in mind.

I suspect that we may end up in L2 next season but with no penalties for the charges against us as long as we vote for the PPG proposal

 

[kentblues]

So if we are being judged the same as Macclesfield then we should only get a 3 to 4 point deduction. We never missed any fixtures and they failed to pay players on multiple occasions throughout the season, had several winding ups orders and their players refused to play. We are already being relegated when mathematically still had a chance to stay up...surely that's punishment enough?

The Macclesfield deduction was for not fulfilling fixtures

 

[kentblues]

Macclesfield got fined 6 points in January for non payment of wages. So it has happened.

Macclesfield docked six points by EFL

Macclesfield Town are docked six points by the English Football League after pleading guilty to charges over non-payment of wages and failing to fulfil their fixture with Crewe.

www.bbc.co.uk

No we have had the discussion before- it is the non fulfilling of the fixture verses Crewe that resulted in the points deduction. It wasn’t for non payment of wages. Non fulfilment of fixtures has always carried a points deduction..

 

[MK Shrimper]

No we have had the discussion before- it is the non fulfilling of the fixture verses Crewe that resulted in the points deduction. It wasn’t for non payment of wages. Non fulfilment of fixtures has always carried a points deduction..

Look, we're going round in circles. I'm not confident that we'll start next season on 0 points, you are. I hope you're right, but I have a horrible feeling we wont. Can we leave it there?

 

[Colorado Shrimper]

Kent 1 Milton Keynes 0

 

[cerbera45]

Maybe they should play out the rest of the 2019/20 season fixtures/results using an emulation of Sensible Soccer ;-)

 

[davewebbsbrain]

Maybe they should play out the rest of the 2019/20 season fixtures/results using an emulation of Sensible Soccer ;-)

Not very sensible though ?

 

[northlincsshrimper1]

Off his rocker

Are you referring to me!

 

[Lester Bangs]

Can you please share this local media report? Would be good to see it/ investigate - clearly someone is suggesting some transcretion other than the two mentioned? I don’t recall seeing the report

I’m sure it was an Echo / Chris Phillips article from early March. I can’t find it now but there’s this from the BBC.

Southend & Macclesfield charged by EFL

Southend United and Macclesfield Town are charged with misconduct by the EFL for failing to pay their players on time.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Evening Echo]

THE English Football League has set out its testing and return-to-training protocols, with the first results from Covid-19 tests among Championship players set to be published on Sunday.

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