Dialog has been open for some months, and has got us quite frankly nowhere, in fact I would say all it has done is anger even more people. There comes a point when enough is enough and you have to show in numbers the dissatisfaction.
Let's be clear, I haven't had time to scrutinise everything that's been said because I happen to be incredibly busy at work. I saw a post and some responses. I've not seen it being "shut down" and I've not rubbished the plans for the protest. So please stop casting aspersions where none are intended, I've raised a concern, that is all.
I have watched the zoom call and am aware, but i thought the idea was for openness via dialogue and moving forward with regular meetings as stated in the call, thats why i raised that point, as just saying it could be counterintuitive.
But 1 random post does not constitute plans does it, it was shut down literally minutes after and this was yesterday! You not think it prudent to check the post before making claims that plans are afoot for a pub crawl? Looks shut down to me!
Ok last thing I will say on this, you saw a post yesterday not today, just 1 post, minutes later it’s shut down. Over 24 hours later you claim plans are afoot without thinking I better check that post has not spiralled into anything concrete? I am not jumping on your post, I think it’s your good self replying to a thread I started, it’s not me approaching you today or yesterday it’s yourself with the statements that have been unhelpful and with terrible undertones.
That's you reading into things personally as you have always done with me going back over a decade. You've tried to cause trouble between myself and a very good friend by your mis-reading of my comments when all I am trying to do is advise caution. I will say no more on this subject here and confine myself to the match related threads.
Perhaps that is why the plan should be the 50 + 1 model which having found out more about allows the fans (members) 51% of the vote on decisions made. This then would allow fans to have their say in most decisions, if not all?, that bit I’m not completely sure on at the moment. But let’s say Ron then wanted to change the emblem, nickname and shirt colour we would be able to vote to say no thank you ?
It’s 51% of the vote not the shares so if decisions voted on by fans start moving the club in the right direction again surely his investment becomes more valuable?
That’s what the 50+1 model means, but as Supa Shrimpa points out RM is reticent to do that as it stands right now, I also don’t see him changing his mind on that. If the government says that this change is a must then i see issues around people not wanting to put in what they do now, for instance shirt sponsorship a chairman wants a deal with a betting company worth say 100k per season but the fans don’t like the idea of a betting company so they veto it and want to accept a 60k deal with what ever company. 40k difference right there now that’s a small example but it will magnify with a lot of issues and then the chairman/owner says I’m not financing the shortfall what happens then? Do people expect that financing to continue even tho 51 out of a 100 votes could veto anything and everything he proposes?
I’m in agreement why would he but then what is this protest for? We could all just sign the petition and hope that the government makes a legislative change in this country. We could just start to boycott everything until he listens but most of all we do all need to stand behind one cause which from the majority of posts it is to be listened to and as that hasn’t worked protesting for the 50+1 for me would be the next step before eventually boycotting and not purchasing anything.
Then perhaps it shows another potential investor that the SUFC fans have a moral compass and eventually over time the decisions that get made will show the direction that the fans wish to take the club? If investor(S) and supporters are aligned then everything will slowly but surely move in the right direction. Lowering the ticket prices may have a short term impact but also sends a message and eventually the working man/woman is able to afford to watch football again and take his/her son/daughter with them. A season ticket in Germany and don’t quote me is around £200 the most expensive at in England is around £2000. I guess at the end of the day it’s whether or not you see any value in the above
puting season ticket prices for me is irrelevant as they salaries over the whole squads are so different between England and anywhere else on the whole (some exceptions) and htis the recoup that by having higher prices.
