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Rail strike?

MK Shrimper

Striker
Joined
Aug 6, 2005
Messages
52,576
What do the RMT want?
Firstly safety to be maintained as it is and that is a major change the bosses want to make.
Better pay for those lower down the scales.
Retaining staff for ticket offices etc.
And not to have new conditions which will lessen the bonuses for working ****e shifts and weekends.

Seems fairly reasonable to me but not widely reported with the press seemingly intent on comparing top salary for experienced drivers with newly qualified other professionals.

Have I got that about right @MK Shrimper ?

Yep, pretty much. All you hear on social media is about train drivers pay which isn't what this fight is about. If Shapps manages to cut nearly 3000 maintenance staff from the front line, delays will rise and the network will become less safe for the travelling public. I find it galling that Grant Shapps represents Hatfield - the site for a major crash in 2000 that began the end of Railtrack.
 

Phippsy

C2Cs finest⭐
Joined
Jan 19, 2007
Messages
1,062
Location
Wakering (the posh bit)
That's why unions are important because they can actually force a difference.
And something alse alot of people fail to mention is that membership of a union isn't free. We pay to be represented at board level, to try and stop senior execs and share holders from creaming every last drop of profit to then just say, Sorry we are skint and have just come out of a pandemic/brexit/cost of living crisis/ cricko ripping us all off etc etc .


Basically it's crickos fault.
 

Cricko

Zone Owner ⭐
Staff member
Joined
Oct 25, 2006
Messages
33,872
Location
Leigh-On-Sea
And something alse alot of people fail to mention is that membership of a union isn't free. We pay to be represented at board level, to try and stop senior execs and share holders from creaming every last drop of profit to then just say, Sorry we are skint and have just come out of a pandemic/brexit/cost of living crisis/ cricko ripping us all off etc etc .


Basically it's crickos fault.
Everything is my fault.
 

rigsby

Life President⭐
Joined
Oct 12, 2014
Messages
15,349
Yep, pretty much. All you hear on social media is about train drivers pay which isn't what this fight is about. If Shapps manages to cut nearly 3000 maintenance staff from the front line, delays will rise and the network will become less safe for the travelling public. I find it galling that Grant Shapps represents Hatfield - the site for a major crash in 2000 that began the end of Railtrack.

I was painting the other day with legendary East stand steward Wivs. So have to suffer Vine on radio 2 as he Wivs insists
on winding himself up.

Even the BBC made it all about drivers even though they were not on strike. Still quoting driver pay gets the angry phoning in and further anti union narrative achieved without any balance. The BBC was once respected around the world but have since become as bad as any private MSM corporation..
 

Massimo Giovanni

Old Timer⭐
Joined
May 10, 2011
Messages
9,808
Location
Siena
I was painting the other day with legendary East stand steward Wivs. So have to suffer Vine on radio 2 as he Wivs insists
on winding himself up.

Even the BBC made it all about drivers even though they were not on strike. Still quoting driver pay gets the angry phoning in and further anti union narrative achieved without any balance. The BBC was once respected around the world but have since become as bad as any private MSM corporation..
What chance is there of comparison between the wages ( and perks) of Lineker and an MP, a train driver, a rail line maintenance worker and a 10year nurse?
And Jeremy Vine?
 

ESG

Manager
Joined
Dec 10, 2003
Messages
2,324
I was painting the other day with legendary East stand steward Wivs. So have to suffer Vine on radio 2 as he Wivs insists
on winding himself up.

Even the BBC made it all about drivers even though they were not on strike. Still quoting driver pay gets the angry phoning in and further anti union narrative achieved without any balance. The BBC was once respected around the world but have since become as bad as any private MSM corporation..
Blimey, never of had old Googie as a Jeremy Vine man. More an Alan Carr fan
 

rigsby

Life President⭐
Joined
Oct 12, 2014
Messages
15,349
Blimey, never of had old Googie as a Jeremy Vine man. More an Alan Carr fan
He is not really a fan. Like all painters he has to have a badly tuned in, paint stained old radio with crap choice of dad pop blaring out.

I prefer peace and quiet to concentrate on the job. I’m paying the wages.
 
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