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Recruitment consultants - are they all shysters?

I dont get it. Oh its actually not a joke. Mad Cyril posting a sensible post, whatever next.

Never trust one myself, but like Estate Agents a neccessary evil.
 
In the main rubbish, with the odd exception.

I was made redundant in 2005 and luckily got a job within a couple of weeks. During that time I registered with a number of recruitment companies which included Reed & Co (on line) a couple of months ago I got a call out of the blue from Reed asking if I was still looking. :stunned: On that experience I'd cross Reed off your list.
 
I used to work in the biz - some are OK, some aren't. The more specialised the better, because they will have the better clients and more jobs on their books.

ps with Reed, they were probably data cleansing as you might not have told them to take you off their database.
 
What Naps said, the industry specific ones are better , the consultants often have experience in that industry.

The general ones, Reed etc and most local ones are more about advertising the Job and hoping people will spot it in the window
 
My rule is to let them come to you. Firstly because it saves the hassle of trying to find one yourself and secondly you will at least know that they're interested in you.
 
I used to work in the biz - some are OK, some aren't. The more specialised the better, because they will have the better clients and more jobs on their books.

ps with Reed, they were probably data cleansing as you might not have told them to take you off their database.

You may be right Naps, and yes you and Gary are both right about industry specific agencies, I got my current job via one, and they have provided us with staff since.
 
I dont get it. Oh its actually not a joke. Mad Cyril posting a sensible post, whatever next.

Never trust one myself, but like Estate Agents a neccessary evil.

An estate agent wasn't necessary when I bought my place and a recruitment agent wasn't necessary when I got my job.

Industry specific recruitment consultants tend to still be ****. I found one who was OK. The rest were useless and that's having experienced them from both sides of the fence as a candidate and as an employer.

ps They aren't data cleansing, they are updating their records so they can impress clients with the high calibre of candidates on their books, despite the fact that in most cases your improved CV will have been despite them not because of them.
 
ps They aren't data cleansing, they are updating their records so they can impress clients with the high calibre of candidates on their books, despite the fact that in most cases your improved CV will have been despite them not because of them.

well yes, but for Reed it's just a numbers game. Anyone over 5 years old after last log in gets a call.
 
well yes, but for Reed it's just a numbers game. Anyone over 5 years old after last log in gets a call.

Without fail I get a yearly e-mail or call always around the same time of the year from the same recruitment agency fishing for an updated CV by telling me that this particular role has "come up". Last year I even pointed out that if I wanted the services a recruitment agent I would opt for one that had a track record of responding to my e-mails, had suggested opportunities that at least vaguely fit what I had told them I was interested in and that hadn't offered me the same no doubt imaginary role three times in three years. I still got e-mailed this year asking if I would be interested in a exciting "new" role that had just come available...
 
Generally crap. When they think they want you they'll move heaven and earth, otherwise you might as well be **** on their shoes.
 
My rule is to let them come to you. Firstly because it saves the hassle of trying to find one yourself and secondly you will at least know that they're interested in you.

What Ive found on numerous occassions is agencies ring you to say are you looking, ask you a few questions and then start asking about who you currently work for. ie they are just calling to find if there are any vacancies they can recruit for.

They arent all like that, some are ok as long as you are the kind of candidate they think they can sell.
 
I have only ever had 4 jobs.

The first was a job straight out of university. I trained as a chartered accountant, but hated it. When I left I used an agency. The girl who looked after me was brilliant, but I actually got offered the one and only job I interviewed for, so I have no idea if she would have continued to be as good. I left there through redundancy. I left on the 31st December and started a new job on the 2nd Jan. I got this job through a friend who took my CV in. When I left there it was also through redundancy. I left there at the end of March 2011 and started my current job (albeit as a contractor - just been renewed till the end of the year - woohoo) at the beginning of April 2011. Again I got this job because a colleague from my previous job took my CV in.

It turns out that agents may be good or bad, but 75% of jobs are never advertised. They are given to people who know people. The more people you know, the more successful you will be at finding a job. That said, if you didn’t perform people wouldn’t be prepared to recommend you.
 
I have only ever had 4 jobs.


It turns out that agents may be good or bad, but 75% of jobs are never advertised. They are given to people who know people. The more people you know, the more successful you will be at finding a job. That said, if you didn’t perform people wouldn’t be prepared to recommend you.

That largely depends on the industry though any company who calls themselves "an equal opportunity employer" ie local government will need to comply with the legislation and that involves advertising the vacancy
 
Former sister in law used to be a joint partner in a recruitment company before starting a family, specialised in top banking recruitment. Definitely not all rubbish.
 
That largely depends on the industry though any company who calls themselves "an equal opportunity employer" ie local government will need to comply with the legislation and that involves advertising the vacancy

That doesnt stop line managers from getting in someone they know... rules are there to be broken!

Had some dealings with recruitment agencies, some specialist, others more general from both sides of the fence, so excellent, others appalling. Bottom line is that "sales" are more important than anything else - they will move heaven and earth if you have skills they can sell for a premium with little real effort. Also beware of recruiters who advertise the same post on several job boards...
 
That largely depends on the industry though any company who calls themselves "an equal opportunity employer" ie local government will need to comply with the legislation and that involves advertising the vacancy

Same with Network Rail even if sometimes they're on "closed lists" due to re-orgs.
 
Also beware of recruiters who advertise the same post on several job boards...

Yes, I would say any recruiter who just used one job board rather than looking for a diverse selection of candidates is probably a also a nonce. WTF are you talking about?
 
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