Save Rafa....

[Pubey]

Difference is that no transfer has taken place between Manchester United & Liverpool since 1964, that player being ex Shrimper Phil Chisnall whose move of course has now become an infamous trivia question.

as long as that question comes up on Eggheads you'll be ok!

 

[number11]

In this day and age, managers live and die by their signings. Benitez got it right with the likes of Reina and Torres, but Ferguson and Wenger rarely sign duds QUOTE]

Id strongly question Ferguson's purchasing record. Ive always viewed it as very hit and miss. He has been fortunate that (until now?) the club was in such a strong financial position that for every amount lost on a Veron, Kleberson, Bellion etc he is able to keep buying replacements til he gets it right, whilst relying on the core of the team that came through in the mid/late 90's.

Rafa's signings though have been pretty negligent and despite the money they have spent to become a 2 man team is a woeful indictment of the players he has bought.

 

[EastStandBlue]

Torres out for 6 weeks with torn knee cartilage... Rafa's job just got considerably harder.

 

[MisterStubbs]

Torres out for 6 weeks and needs an op
Beniyoun (sorry if spelt wrong) out for 4
Stevie G out for at least 2 weeks

Doesnt look good for Liverpool.

 

[MisterStubbs]

In this day and age, managers live and die by their signings. Benitez got it right with the likes of Reina and Torres, but Ferguson and Wenger rarely sign duds QUOTE]

Id strongly question Ferguson's purchasing record. Ive always viewed it as very hit and miss. He has been fortunate that (until now?) the club was in such a strong financial position that for every amount lost on a Veron, Kleberson, Bellion etc he is able to keep buying replacements til he gets it right, whilst relying on the core of the team that came through in the mid/late 90's.

Rafa's signings though have been pretty negligent and despite the money they have spent to become a 2 man team is a woeful indictment of the players he has bought.

Id strongly question someone who has brought Wayne Rooney, Christiano Ronaldo, Roy Keane, Nemanja Vidic, Patrice Evra, shall i name many more? to the club. In my eyes, they arent bad signings.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

Id strongly question someone who has brought Wayne Rooney, Christiano Ronaldo, Roy Keane, Nemanja Vidic, Patrice Evra, shall i name many more? to the club. In my eyes, they arent bad signings.

I wouldn't say they were bad signings either, but they weren't exactly cheap. Keane and I think Rooney were both British transfer records, Ronaldo was the most expensive teenager ever etc


Ferguson has broken the British transfer record more times than any other manager.

Most were successes, but the likes of Veron flopped and even someone like Cole never lived up to the price tag. His record in the transfer record is far from spotless.

Taibu, Prunier, Veron, Forlan, Cole, Poborksky, Cruyff, Blomqvist, Kleberson, Djemba-Djemba etc etc

 

[Pubey]

This gives me an idea for a game...

 

[MisterStubbs]

This gives me an idea for a game...

Getting rather boring now dont'cha think?

 

[EastStandBlue]

I wouldn't say they were bad signings either, but they weren't exactly cheap. Keane and I think Rooney were both British transfer records, Ronaldo was the most expensive teenager ever etc


Ferguson has broken the British transfer record more times than any other manager.

Most were successes, but the likes of Veron flopped and even someone like Cole never lived up to the price tag. His record in the transfer record is far from spotless.

Taibu, Prunier, Veron, Forlan, Cole, Poborksky, Cruyff, Blomqvist, Kleberson, Djemba-Djemba etc etc

Part and parcel of my point was that if they did flop, very rarely did United lose a fortune on them. Veron was sold to Chelsea at a loss of a few million, Forlan too. I wouldn't exactly say Cole was a flop... Him and Yorke were pretty much invincible in '99.

 

[MisterStubbs]

Part and parcel of my point was that if they did flop, very rarely did United lose a fortune on them. Veron was sold to Chelsea at a loss of a few million, Forlan too. I wouldn't exactly say Cole was a flop... Him and Yorke were pretty much invincible in '99.

Veron promised so much but brought very little. Only other players that stand out like you said, Kleberson, Eric Djemba-Djemba, Nani (IMO) to name a few but these players always seem to get sold easily.

 

[canveyshrimper]

Part and parcel of my point was that if they did flop, very rarely did United lose a fortune on them. Veron was sold to Chelsea at a loss of a few million, Forlan too. I wouldn't exactly say Cole was a flop... Him and Yorke were pretty much invincible in '99.

I thought they dropped about 14 million on Veron, bought for 28 million sold for 14. Also Djemba-Djemba, so crap they named named him twice was a loss of over 6 million.

 

[EastStandBlue]

I thought they dropped about 14 million on Veron, bought for 28 million sold for 14. Also Djemba-Djemba, so crap they named named him twice was a loss of over 6 million.

I thought Chelsea eventually paid £22m for him?

 

[canveyshrimper]

I thought Chelsea eventually paid £22m for him?

You could be right, according to this he moved to Chelsea for about "half" of the Man Ure fee. I didn't realise he only made 14appearances for Chelsea. What a waste of money.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

Part and parcel of my point was that if they did flop, very rarely did United lose a fortune on them. Veron was sold to Chelsea at a loss of a few million, Forlan too. I wouldn't exactly say Cole was a flop... Him and Yorke were pretty much invincible in '99.

The thing is if Man U signed me for £10m, they'd be able to off-load me for several million pounds purely on the fact that they'd signed me for £10m.

 

[canveyshrimper]

I was somewhat take aback to see Ronnie Whelan pontificating on the future of Benitez, and how poor a lot of his signings have been. Some Southend supporters may remember Mr Whelan, I'd say let he who be without sin cast the first stone.

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

I was somewhat take aback to see Ronnie Whelan pontificating on the future of Benitez, and how poor a lot of his signings have been. Some Southend supporters may remember Mr Whelan, I'd say let he who be without sin cast the first stone.

I wouldn't quibble over Whelan's credentials to talk about bad signings. Indeed, I can think of few managers better qualified.

 

[Rayleigh Weir]

I wouldn't quibble over Whelan's credentials to talk about bad signings. Indeed, I can think of few managers better qualified.

Alvin Martin? Although maybe that's quantity rather than quality (or lack thereof)...