• Welcome to the ShrimperZone forums.
    You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which only gives you limited access.

    Existing Users:.
    Please log-in using your existing username and password. If you have any problems, please see below.

    New Users:
    Join our free community now and gain access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and free. Click here to join.

    Fans from other clubs
    We welcome and appreciate supporters from other clubs who wish to engage in sensible discussion. Please feel free to join as above but understand that this is a moderated site and those who cannot play nicely will be quickly removed.

    Assistance Required
    For help with the registration process or accessing your account, please send a note using the Contact us link in the footer, please include your account name. We can then provide you with a new password and verification to get you on the site.

Seaway Leisure Plans Submitted

Surprise surprise.

Decision expected this month on controversial Southend Seaway proposal

Seaway.jpg.gallery.jpg
Decision expected this month on controversial £50m Seaway proposal

A decision on whether to grant planning permission to one of the most controversial developments plans will take place at the end of the month.

Plans to turn the council-owned Seaway car park into a major new leisure development, complete with an IMAX cinema, a bowling alley and a climbing wall, have been under heavy scrutiny for years and on November 27 it could be granted planning approval.

Southend Council has scheduled the special Development Control Committee meeting to focus entirely on whether the plans should go ahead.

It will take place less than two months before a contract between the council and developer Turnstone Estates comes to an end.

If councillors choose not to grant planning permission or wish to see changes, they will have to grant an extension to the contract which expires on January 17.

But when the same contract was extended the first time in February, councillors including council leader Ian Gilbert said the extension was to give Turnstone “one last chance”.


Deputy council leader, Councillor Ron Woodley, who agreed to the extension at the beginning of the year described some of the potential outcomes of the decision.

He said: “If this is refused then the developer would, like everyone else have the right to appeal it and if that takes place, we would have to hold any decision on terminating contract until that has been upheld or refused.

“If the committee approves it then I suspect some of those who oppose it such as the Stockvale Group or seafront traders may want a judicial review and that would also take time and again that would put it on hold, with the council unable to do anything until after a review has taken place.”

The councillor went on to say that while the Seaway car park is a good site for redevelopment, he feels that if approval is not granted by the end of the contract “this is the last chance for turnstone to act accordingly”.

Turnstone has faced fierce opposition to their plans from seafront traders, including leading businessman Philip Miller who owns Adventure Island. Mr Miller has warned that if planning approval is given it will mean the “extinction” of his business.

Other concerns have centred around the council’s agreement that Turnstone would pay £282,000 in rent – a figure based on the parking income in 2014 - but five years on, the council is believed to be making more than £600,000.

Critics say this means taxpayers will be missing out on millions of pounds but the council has defended the contract because the rent figure does not take into account the current costs for maintaining the car park or the income that will be generated from business rates.

While the development will include a multi-storey car park with 555 parking spaces, critics have also argued this is not enough and will cause significant harm to seafront businesses. Their arguments centre around the fact that there are 660 spaces available at the existing car park.

The meeting will take place at 2pm on November 27 at Southend's Civic Offices.

Full Story
Link
 
Adventure Island will be forced to close if a £50m leisure complex goes ahead

Untitled design (23).png.gallery.jpg
Concern - Adventure Island, inset left, Phillip Miller MBE and, inset right, staff at the popular attraction

ADVENTURE Island will be forced to close if a new £50m leisure complex is built in Southend, its owner claims.

Phillip Miller MBE said his family business will become "extinct" if the £50million cinema complex gets the go ahead from Southend Council.

The prominent businessman is executive chairman of the Stockvale Group which includes Adventure Island, Sea Life Adventure and the restaurant Clarence Yard.

In a letter to every councillor and the Echo he states: "If this scheme was allowed to happen it would lead to the extinction of my family business.

"The knock on effect to surrounding businesses would be catastrophic if we were to close.

"The town’s hotels would suffer a downturn as well, who gain much extra business from us.

"On top of which the guaranteed closure of the Odeon cinema wrecking the North end of the High Streets trade.

"We have already seen the Kursaal close due just to the threat of the Seaway madness.

Developer Turnstone Estates is hoping to get planning permission by January to turn the car park off Lucy Road into an 11 screen IMAX Empire Cinema, 20 lane Hollywood Bowl, 80-bed Travelodge Hotel, restaurants and a new public square, with 555 car parking spaces in a new multi-storey building.

The council is expected to discuss awarding planning permission at a special development control committee meeting before Christmas.

Council leader Ian Gilbert said: “The details of this were all agreed in February, the positions regarding the development remain the same and this is now a matter that has to be resolved on planning grounds.”

Council documents show that the scheme is expected to create around 500 jobs in the town and generate an additional £15million for the local economy each year, according to Turnstone Estates..

The scheme has been controversial due to loss of parking spaces.

Mr Miller wrote: "The festival leisure Park at Basildon has two thousand car parking spaces and even then gets overrun at times.

In the Seaway car park at present there are 661 spaces reducing to 555 if the development is approved."

He added: "I am fighting for the survival of my family business."

Mr Miller added: "It’s not the development we are against as such, after all it’s the council’s property they can fill it up with strip joints if they want.

"The reason we are so adamantly against is it will lead to the extinction of our business.

"If you take away our car parking you cut off our oxygen simple as that, ninety percent of our customers visit by car.

Full Story
Link
 
Will be interesting to see what happens. It’s likely, as the article says, that even if this is approved there will be further legal or procedural steps that will delay the Seaway development from ‘breaking ground’ any time soon.
 
Funny how they have time to quickly decide on Seaway but not Fossetts Farm...
 
Don't agree with this development in the slightest, but I do wonder how Miller can justify his claims that it will force Adventure Island to close.
 
Don't agree with this development in the slightest, but I do wonder how Miller can justify his claims that it will force Adventure Island to close.

He can't but just like landlords in the high street who don't want FF....Just looking to protect what they have, to the detriment to others....Its become a nationwide epidemic in the last 3 years.
 
I do not understand this, most people, businesses, and some councillors are objecting to this proceeding. This is because of the reduction and loss of much needed car parking in central Southend that serves the High Street and the Seafront from 661 spaces to 555.

If they ALSO built along with this new Seaway development a multi-story car park more that doubling the existing number of spaces, most would welcome it.
 
If Southend Council are anything near like Rochford Council then the development has most likely already got the nod behind closed doors and the 'special' DCC meeting is just a front
for the sake of formality.
 
Just goes to show it can be all sorted in double quick time if the council have an interest in the scheme......No archaeological digs, extra traffic surveys or consultations with every minor group going.......Just a Yes.
 
Special Meeting, Development Control Committee
Wednesday, 27th November, 2019 2.00 pm


Agenda with plans, objections, and Council Officers recommendations.

Link
 
Another in a long line of hair-brained schemes from SBC just like the Hammerson development and Royals. The High Street is a mess with empty shops and short-term lets yet SBC somehow decides another cinema and climbing wall (??) is just the answer to get people flooding into the town. As if. Maybe a survey of local residents regards attractions / facilities would have been a idea before blindly pushing-on with this folly. The only winner will be the developer....
 
Another in a long line of hair-brained schemes from SBC just like the Hammerson development and Royals. The High Street is a mess with empty shops and short-term lets yet SBC somehow decides another cinema and climbing wall (??) is just the answer to get people flooding into the town. As if. Maybe a survey of local residents regards attractions / facilities would have been a idea before blindly pushing-on with this folly. The only winner will be the developer....
The developers will get paid, well paid. What will the Councillors get out of it?
I don't want to label them as crooked so I won't.
In the 1970s some Councillors on SBC went to prison for taking money for helping developers projects didn't they?
 
SBC have never payed heed to the needs and wishes of the local residents but instead pushed their own objectives regardless of costs involved and/or benefit to the town. The over-eagerness to progress the Seaway folly and so quickly (to me) does raise questions.
 
I think the Southend Council will approve their own ill-conceived plans that they have "Fast Tracked" and bent over backwards to force these plans threw.

Their partners in this folly are Turnstone Estates who "Brought" the whole site for a £1 from guess who? Southend Council.

I think this whole sorry saga will end up going to a Judicial Review and hopefully the correct decision will then be made by people not involved in these poorly conceived plans.
 
The "Special" meeting of the Development Control Committee to discuss the Seaway Development Plans which was to be held today (Weds 27th Nov) has been cancelled at the last minute after the plans were referred to the Secretary of State.

Consultants for the Stockdale Group (RPS) said Southend Council were incorrect to say an assessment on the development’s environmental impact does not need to be carried out and the communities secretary should make it a binding requirement.

In a letter to the Communities Secretary, RPS stated that the development will cause an “excess parking demand”, endanger trees, hinder views, and says there is not enough information on the impact it will have on air quality.

Developer hits out at ‘vested interests’ behind new delays

222906284.jpg.gallery.jpg
Plans - Empire Cinema is on board for the scheme

The developer behind one of Southend’s largest ever developments has accused critics of denying residents of a “brighter, greener future” after a decision on planning permission was delayed.

Councillors were supposed to make a decision on whether to grant planning permission to the £50million Seaway leisure complex last night but the meeting was cancelled at the last minute after the plans were referred to the Secretary of State.

The referral was made by a consultancy company called RPS, which was employed by the Stockvale Group, owned by Adventure Island boss Philip Miller.

The consultants claim Southend Council was incorrect to say an assessment on the development’s environmental impact does not need to be carried out and the communities secretary should make it a binding requirement.

The secretary of state will now have 21 days to consider the referral - but this could take longer due to the general election on December 12.

Tim Deacon, director at Turnstone Estates, said: “Today could have been the day that Southend chose to secure a brighter, greener future with a new £50 million family friendly year-round leisure attraction.

“But instead, a cynical attempt to deny residents hundreds of jobs and the state-of-the-art facilities they deserve has held Southend back. Southend Council’s independent legal advice supports the view that there is no need for an Environmental Impact Assessment.

“So, it could not be any clearer, this is all about stopping residents having a go to leisure destination with some of the best names in entertainment like Empire Cinemas and Hollywood Bowl.

“While vested interests want to play games with what leisure facilities residents can have, we are as determined as ever to take Southend forward and deliver Seaway Leisure for residents to enjoy and local businesses to cash in all year round.”

Mr Miller did not respond to requests to comment over the referral but the letter submitted by RPS says the development will cause an “excess parking demand”, endanger trees, hinder views, and says there is not enough information on the impact it will have on air quality.

Councillor Martin Terry, who previously raised some concerns about the plans, said: “There are many questions about this proposal and lots of things have been said by various people so I wasn’t surprised to see the meeting called off.

“There are lots of unanswered questions and I intended to attend the meeting and pose some of those questions. I think cancelling this was right thing to do.”

Full Story Here
 
I think Mr Tim Deacon meant he was looking forward to cashing-in from the development whilst the townspeople would be left with yet another white elephant, courtesy of the incumbents at SBC. As for him citing leisure facilites, surely FFS would also come under that category?
 
Back
Top