Should private schools be abolished?

[Pubey]

No problem with private schools. Not every kid who attends them becomes a sucess, nor does every kid who attends a state school become a failure. If I had the money, MK Jnr would be going to one of them as my education was pretty lamentable.

Religious schools however.......:angry:

Exactly, try visiting Oxford Brookes and you'll see lots of examples of kids who fell through the gap at a private school but still get pushed by mummy and daddy to get the O word on their CV.

 

[C'mon you Shrimpers]

my father went to public school. It was always the threat if we were naughty when we were young, "you'll be sent to boarding school". He hated it and being away from home. The current fees for that school are just shy of £30,000 per annum???!!!!
Not sure it's worth it but people should be free to spend their money where they like. My grandfather still paid tax so other people's children could be educated.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

You must mean for example the bloke who pays earns 30000 and pays 22% and therefore already pays more in pounds and pence than the bloke who earns 20,000, and also the bloke who earns 50,000 and pays substantially more at the same rate and a load more at a higher rate.

I thought you were talking about fairness not ability to pay. If you are talking about ability to pay, and some people have the ability and the inclination to pay for Private education, why take that away?

You can't have it both ways Barna.

I certainly try to.:winking:

 

[steveo]

I certainly try to.:winking:

And get neither - as usual.
Barna Nil - Zone 10

 

[Berrichonne shrimper]

I certainly try to.:winking:

So you would not flaunt the laws of a country to save a few quid,hippocrite,private schooling in France is cheap but as my wife is a socialist we send our kids to state schools but if the state school were rubbish then I would not eat to send my kids private.

 

[londonblue]

Exactly, try visiting Oxford Brookes and you'll see lots of examples of kids who fell through the gap at a private school but still get pushed by mummy and daddy to get the O word on their CV.

My brother-in-law has two sons. One (26) has severe cerebral palsy and is in a home near Cambridge, the other (24) went to Oxford Brookes. At the time, he laughed and said it was typical of his luck that he had two sons, one at Cambridge, and one at Oxford, but neither were at the right one.

 

[Bielzibubz]

Who the flying **** are you or anyone else to tell me how I should choose to educate my children? Apart from the law that say's they must have one of course.

If I can afford to send my kids (if indeed I had any, which I don't) to a private school what the hell gives you or anyone else the right to deny me that option?

Your utopian socialist ideal world that you so falornly and sadly cling on to is a fantasy, pure and simple, and the sooner you wake up to that fact and stop wishing it wasn't the better for everyone here at the Zone.

 

[Pubey]

My brother-in-law has two sons. One (26) has severe cerebral palsy and is in a home near Cambridge, the other (24) went to Oxford Brookes. At the time, he laughed and said it was typical of his luck that he had two sons, one at Cambridge, and one at Oxford, but neither were at the right one.

The thing is Oxford Brookes is a perfectly good ex-poly university and it has great facilities and a good reputation. It seems bizarre that so many 'lesser academic' students from private schools seem to congregate there. It's probably influenced by the great deal of private schools around the Oxford area, but still.

http://www.studentbeans.com/student-money/a/the-posh-university-league2169.html
http://brookes.tab.co.uk/2013/11/22/high-score-for-brookes-in-private-school-poll/

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

You may have missed my final paragraph as I edited it.

My gut feel is we should be increasing those tax breaks on a sliding scale, not ending them. Then everyone benefits.

By taxing those who can afford to pay more.



What about ending tax relief for those parents who send their children to private schools and ending the charitable status which private schools enjoy?

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-justify-their-charitable-status-8835283.html

You haven't answered the part of my question which suggested ending the charitable status which private schools currently enjoy.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

And get neither - as usual.
Barna Nil - Zone 10

Currenly there are two other zoners who agree with me, which represents nearly 20% of the poll sample.

If you (and others) don't think I've realised by now that most (but thankfully not all) my fellow zoners are right-wing Tories (or UKIPers,which is almost the same thing really) then you're mistaken.

 

[Pubey]

Currenly there are two other zoners who agree with me, which represents nearly 20% of the poll sample.

If you (and others) don't think I've realised by now that most (but thankfully not all) my fellow zoners are right-wing Tories (or UKIPers,which is almost the same thing really) then you're mistaken.

It's not a left right thing though. You can be left wing and a support a large welfare state and wealth redistribution via taxation, and still not be anti private education or health.

 

[OldBlueLady]

It's not a left right thing though. You can be left wing and a support a large welfare state and wealth redistribution via taxation, and still not be anti private education or health.

And there are plenty of left wing MPs who would disagree with getting rid of private education too!!!

 

[Benfleet A1]

And there are plenty of left wing MPs who would disagree with getting rid of private education too!!!

At least while their kids are still being educated at one.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

Private education is the only option for parents who don't want their kids dumbed down by politically correct pieties and educational standards that laud imbecility. No wonder Barnaby doesn't like it.

 

[steveo]

Private education is the only option for parents who don't want their kids dumbed down by politically correct pieties and educational standards that laud imbecility.

Or radicalised by muslim extremists.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

So you would not flaunt the laws of a country to save a few quid,hippocrite,private schooling in France is cheap but as my wife is a socialist we send our kids to state schools but if the state school were rubbish then I would not eat to send my kids private.

You're quite right to point out that religous private education (especially in R/C schools) is much cheaper in France than the UK, (also than in Spain,actually).

We're currently putting our younger daughter (aged 20) through her University education in France, where tuition fees are also much cheaper than in the UK, (fortunately we're not having to starve to do it,either). :smile:

Incidentally,my wife (like yours) is also a Socialist, (I'm proud to say).

 

[londonblue]

Private education is the only option for parents who don't want their kids dumbed down by politically correct pieties and educational standards that laud imbecility. No wonder Barnaby doesn't like it.

So are you saying there is no state school in the entire country that is worth attending? I would have to disagree with that.

 

[londonblue]

Or radicalised by muslim extremists.

I am quite sure that the state school my eldest son attends, and my youngest will start at in September, will not radicalise him.

Let's not take one very extreme example and pretend it's the norm.

 

[steveo]

I am quite sure that the state school my eldest son attends, and my youngest will start at in September, will not radicalise him.

Let's not take one very extreme example and pretend it's the norm.

Just making sure LB. Lets hope the school can turn them into sensible right wing thinking students.:winking:

 

[londonblue]

Just making sure LB. Lets hope the school can turn them into sensible right wing thinking students.:winking:

Sensible and right wing in the same sentence? What planet are you on?

:winking: