Echo News Simeon Akinola is still 'weeks away' and other injury news

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ELVIS Bwomono and Brandon Goodship are both in contention for Southend United’s clash with Cheltenham Town tomorrow.

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[Shrimpet steve]

Having spoken to my wife (a physio who specialises in sports injuries and has worked with various local football and rugby clubs) I would dispute that.

That's not to say they are doing something wrong. More, it's to point out we don't know. I used Harry Kyprianou's lengthy time out as an example when speaking to her. He took around twice as long to recover as he should have done given the type of injury.

As she said, if one or two players were taking a long time to get better then fair enough, but if there's a pattern of players not getting better in "normal" timeframes then there might be an issue. Certainly someone would have to conduct some kind of investigation to be sure one way or the other. Carrying on with HK's example, it could also be that his specific injury was pretty complicated, and not "normal". Without someone looking into it you simply don't know if there is an issue or not.

However, players not getting better might not be injury related. There could be any number of other factors at play. Maybe (for example) some players are a bit precious, or maybe they don't want to be getting better. Again, I'm not suggesting either of those are the case, they're just examples.

As an aside, a few years ago an international footballer came to see my wife because he wasn't getting better using his club physios. He'd been out for a substantial time for a relatively minor injury and was being vilified by the fans who were adamant he was pretending to be injured so he didn't have to play in a losing team. My wife sorted him out in a couple of weeks. The club physio had misdiagnosed the issue and was therefore given him the wrong treatment.

Don't assume just because a physio works in football that (s)he is any good. They may well be, but they also might not be.

Fair enough but its fustrating

 

[in the know]

Seriously? At least 3 times now a direct response to your post about Akinola being a bad signing due to him being injured has been to tell you he was injured during training with us. Read replied to your posts.

As for injuries in general, I think we would need to get stats from other clubs to see how bad our injury curse is. Green was scythed from behind, Gaed looks like he went down funny, as did Ralph last season when he fell on his shoulder.

I don't think our physios are doing anything wrong, in fact Ben Clarkson getting a job at West Ham speaks volumes about how his our physios actually are.

Speaking to Frankie Banks recently, I actually asked him about the injuries we suffer and he said it's part of the game and how finely tunes the players muscles etc are as to why injuries are more common. He praised the physios at the club for the work they do on the treatment table

Quad strained again during training. Was around a week away from being ok until it happened again as I understand it

 

[Tribal Chief]

Preferably someone who doesn't advertise gambling firms.

I would go for Andrew Eldritch

 

[rigsby]

Having spoken to my wife (a physio who specialises in sports injuries and has worked with various local football and rugby clubs) I would dispute that.

That's not to say they are doing something wrong. More, it's to point out we don't know. I used Harry Kyprianou's lengthy time out as an example when speaking to her. He took around twice as long to recover as he should have done given the type of injury.

As she said, if one or two players were taking a long time to get better then fair enough, but if there's a pattern of players not getting better in "normal" timeframes then there might be an issue. Certainly someone would have to conduct some kind of investigation to be sure one way or the other. Carrying on with HK's example, it could also be that his specific injury was pretty complicated, and not "normal". Without someone looking into it you simply don't know if there is an issue or not.

However, players not getting better might not be injury related. There could be any number of other factors at play. Maybe (for example) some players are a bit precious, or maybe they don't want to be getting better. Again, I'm not suggesting either of those are the case, they're just examples.

As an aside, a few years ago an international footballer came to see my wife because he wasn't getting better using his club physios. He'd been out for a substantial time for a relatively minor injury and was being vilified by the fans who were adamant he was pretending to be injured so he didn't have to play in a losing team. My wife sorted him out in a couple of weeks. The club physio had misdiagnosed the issue and was therefore given him the wrong treatment.

Don't assume just because a physio works in football that (s)he is any good. They may well be, but they also might not be.

The first thing you need to do in any investigation is check a fact before it becomes a fact. Harry K has had a succession of injuries so the twice as long theory can be dismissed.

Ben C has also treated players from various levels who have had bad treatment else where. I know one of them personally.

The injuries have been far to varied to be caused by training pitches, studs or poor physio. Kiernan had along term problem, Humphrys had his face smashed in, Ted Smith landed awkward for a keeper. Coker landed in Sunderland, not BL. Green got a bad tackle, Lennon a fair one.

One area would certainly help thats the fitness levels. They have been poor in recent years but with to many injuries it becomes a vicious circle.....No preseason then its difficult to get fit because the contact games are at half pace as the manger dare not finish the week with some good hard sessions.

 

[mfurok]

He injured himself in training with us after he signed. Find yourself a different target

Do you know whether this injury is in any way related to the muscle injury that was reported to be the reason why he failed to start either of Barnet’s play off games?