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Some good news for the left in Europe

The result was almost the same as Brexit 53% v 47%. So surely there should be another vote or a least an appeal in the Austrian courts. I mean all those people who voted centre left didn't know what they voting for.....etc etc.
 
Why would anyone want a far-right leader from Austria? Look what happened last time.
 
The result was almost the same as Brexit 53% v 47%. So surely there should be another vote or a least an appeal in the Austrian courts. I mean all those people who voted centre left didn't know what they voting for.....etc etc.

Ah but there was a 5% point difference (so 1% point more than in the UK Brexit vote).This was also a vote for President not a referendum as such.Remember there has already been an appeal in the Austrian courts about irregularities in the first election.:winking:
 
Will Italy be next to reject the far-right I wonder?

The BIG vote is in AND it is a huge rejection of the Euro and in favour of Italian culture and internal values.
Largely a protest vote against the immigration policy of Mrs Merkal and the destruction of Italian industry/farming by the French and German coalition.

Will Spain be next to realise that Brussells cares little for National ideals I wonder?
 
The BIG vote is in AND it is a huge rejection of the Euro and in favour of Italian culture and internal values.
Largely a protest vote against the immigration policy of Mrs Merkal and the destruction of Italian industry/farming by the French and German coalition.

Will Spain be next to realise that Brussells cares little for National ideals I wonder?

There will now be a caretaker government in Italy, probably until the next elections there due in 2018.

Since Italy pays more for the money it borrows from the ECB than Spain, I woudn't expect any changes there anytime soon.Though I'd love Podemos to become the leading party on the left.
 
similar percentages on the result - any other similarities?

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The Italian vote wasn't a vote for left or Right, in traditional notions of politics.
It was a vote against greater Federalism at Rome; (and in effect Brussels).
Many, many Italians want to be able to control and limit their porous Mediterranean border and also a huge influx of low skilled labour from Romania and Bulgaria - much of which is not interested in gainful employment.
There is a large anti Merkal/German sentiment involved, as there is in Greece.
I, personally, don't think the change in PM, is a good thing, or that there will not be further moves to return to the Lira and with it greater "home" rule.
 
The result was almost the same as Brexit 53% v 47%. So surely there should be another vote or a least an appeal in the Austrian courts. I mean all those people who voted centre left didn't know what they voting for.....etc etc.

similar percentages on the result - any other similarities?

Interesting, though, that a latter-day Rachmanite, should seek to claim the moral high ground on Brexit, from a completely unrelated referendum.
 
Interesting, though, that a latter-day Rachmanite, should seek to claim the moral high ground on Brexit, from a completely unrelated referendum.

Yes leftie world anyone who is a landlord must be Rachmanite, just like anyone who voted Brexit must be racist or a xenophobe.

By the way when it comes to claiming moral high ground how could I ever hope to compete with your good self
 
Yes leftie world anyone who is a landlord must be Rachmanite, just like anyone who voted Brexit must be racist or a xenophobe.

By the way when it comes to claiming moral high ground how could I ever hope to compete with your good self

He would need some morals first before taking the high ground. If you get my drift.
 
Yes leftie world anyone who is a landlord must be Rachmanite, just like anyone who voted Brexit must be racist or a xenophobe.

By the way when it comes to claiming moral high ground how could I ever hope to compete with your good self

He would need some morals first before taking the high ground. If you get my drift.

I'm happy to be called a "leftie." I'm also quite happy to let others (but not you two) be the judge of my "morals" .:raspberry:
 
To put this in a football context, the left (Austria/EU) scored first with an early goal but now the Italian result (and 3 goals) has made it a 1-3 defeat for the lefties?
Or do you see it otherwise than a BIG anti federalism?


I would only see it as a defeat for the left if elections were called before they're due in 2018 and Beppe Grillo 's five star movememt did well in those elections.

Until then it's (chaotic) business as usual in Italy.
 
I would only see it as a defeat for the left if elections were called before they're due in 2018 and Beppe Grillo 's five star movememt did well in those elections.

Until then it's (chaotic) business as usual in Italy.

In other words bury you're head in the sand and hope all will turn out as you want but all along knowing full well it won't. And there you have it. Socialism in a nutshell.

The EU has been handed a clear sign that the people are turning away from and rejecting a one size fits all federalist, centralised rule in their droves. All over the European continent it's becoming abundantly clear that socially, unfettered and unchecked migration and integration doesn't work. The powers that be within the EU will ignore these signs at their peril.

Although we all know the EU in it's current form is doomed and dyeing a slow death. The writing was on the wall months and months before Brexit but the people driving the train couldn't look in the mirrors for long enough to see what was catching them and if they did they were so blinkered nothing was going to stop the drive for that utopian ideal that is the European Federalist Superstate.
 
In other words bury you're head in the sand and hope all will turn out as you want but all along knowing full well it won't. And there you have it. Socialism in a nutshell.

The EU has been handed a clear sign that the people are turning away from and rejecting a one size fits all federalist, centralised rule in their droves. All over the European continent it's becoming abundantly clear that socially, unfettered and unchecked migration and integration doesn't work. The powers that be within the EU will ignore these signs at their peril.

Althug. oh we all know the EU in it's current form is doomed and dyeing a slow deathThe writing was on the wall months and months before Brexit but the people driving the train couldn't look in the mirrors for long enough to see what was catching them and if they did they were so blinkered nothing was going to stop the drive for that utopian ideal that is the European Federalist Superstate.

Funny,that's not the message, I'm picking up from Spain where I live, or in France, where I've been staying since the weekend,both EU member states,of course.

Then again, I don't get my information exclusively from FB,as you would appear to do.
 
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