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Part 1 of Notes from the AGM of Southend United Football Club
held 12th November 2008 at the Council Chambers,
Civic Centre, Southend on Sea

The meeting began with Ron Martin making welcome the 120 or so shareholders in attendance, explaining that with the recent share issue there had been an anticipation that maybe 300 or 400 shareholders may have been in attendance, which was why the meeting had been arranged at the Council Chambers. and the introduction of the 6 non-executive Directors - M Markscheffel (Universal Cycles connection, specific interest in development of the youth section), Derek Wilshire (specific interests in the youth section and the Trust, made an offer to stand down due to his severe arthiritis), Paul Robinson (partner in local solicitors), Gary Lockett (MD of main Club sponsors, Insure and Go), Ray Osborne (Chartered Accountant and recent partner of Rickard Keen Accountants, specialises on the financial and accounting side). Frank van Wezel (director of Hi Tec Sports) was unfortunately absent on business.

Ron went on to say that the development of our youth section is one of the priorities within the club, with the intention that the Centre of Excellence acquires Academy status by 2010. He then introduced Geoffrey King and Helen Norbury, the Company Secretary and handed over to Geoffrey King for the business part of the proceedings.

Geoffrey King officially opened the meeting and introduced the business. Apologies for absence had been received from Frank van Wezel.

Minutes from the previous meeting held on 18th December 2007 had been adopted previously.

Geoffrey proposed the consideration and adoption of the Directors’ Report and Accounts for the year end 31st July 2007 and invited any questions from the floor. No questions were forthcoming Ron Martin, at this point, advised the meeting in general that any person with specific questions relating to the report or Accounts was welcome to speak afterwards, as he realised some may not want to do so in the meeting. He commented that we had had a good year in the Championship financially and were trying our best to get back there – “Aren’t we, Steve?” He also commented on the difficulty the Club was facing in breaking the wage structure put in place at that time. The adoption of the Report and Accounts were proposed and seconded from the floor, and carried unanimously.

Two full Directors were up for re-election, Geoffrey King explained that there is a rolling 3 year programme for election of Directors, and this year M Marksheffel and Ray Osborne were up for re-election. The re-election of both was proposed and seconded from the floor and carried unanimously. He then explained that Gary Lockett had been appointed a Director only in September, and that procedures required him to stand for re-election at the first meeting after his appointment. The re-election was again proposed and seconded from the floor and carried unanimously. Ron said he had noted the comments made earlier by Derek Wilshire regarding his health and that he would talk privately with him.

The Auditors, HLB Vantis plc, were re-appointed as Auditors for the coming year, with proposal and seconder coming from the floor, and the vote being carried unanimously.

This concluded the business part of the proceedings and Ron not invited Steve Tilson and Paul Brush to join him for a question and answer session. Discussion during this part touched on several areas, including contracts, which were not for general discussion outside of the meeting, and as such I have respected the confidentiality issues highlighted.

Ron began by repeating, again, the intention to return to the Championship as soon as possible, and said that things had started slowly this year, as they had last year and reminded us how things had changed last January with the investment in new players. He hopes to be able to make similar investment this January and commented that there is a period of frustration for the Club now until then, with the situation with the loanees. He commented that of course, he would like to keep all of them at the Club if possible. He said he was looking forward to a time we can truly invest in players, a situation unknown to Steve and Paul at present as the Club lives fairly hand to mouth. Ron added that buying out Delanceys was the trigger for the new stadium plans and that he had been unsurprised when the plans were called in by Government. He also said that the plans Sainsburys have for Roots Hall, while agreed in principle, were not expected to be “rubber stamped” until mid-December. He commented on the current financial situation and hoped that he has the financial skill to be able to circumvent obstacle. The new stadium and retail park was expected to cost approximately £80 million but hopefully the revenue generated would begin to fun investment from January 2009 up to and beyond completion of the new stadium.

Question 1- related to the number of loan players at the Club and the reliance on them, how a team composed of these players could get us into the Championship and then have to be rebuilt. It also made reference to the high wages of some of them, Dan Harding in particular and whether any of them would be prepared to take a cut in wages to come to us.
Ron Martin responded saying that if we got into the Championship, the situation with these players would be very different as they would be likely to want to stay. At the moment some of the loanees are on wages that are too high for a club of our level, and, using Dan Harding again, as an example, we are currently paying less than half his wages. Steve Tilson added that the likes of Hal Robson Kanu and Lee Sawyer were on considerably lower wages and that therefore the likelihood of being able to keep them was higher. Paul Brush added that Dan Harding is the best left back in the league at our level, he came to us low in confidence and with the difficulties around the widely known circumstances surrounding the death of his mother, has enjoyed his time with us.

Question 2 - one shareholder said that he’d like to see more sports involved in the new stadium to promote other sports in the area, citing Steve Tilson’s expertise in table tennis.
This was received with humour and the assurance that it would be looked into.

Question 3 – commented on reports that Reading were reported to be interes
 
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ted in Dan Harding.
Paul Brush answered, saying that we were aware that Reading had people watching their players with us so it was inevitable that they would notice players like Harding, and that if they took him it might mean they had a spare left back we could take from them. He also said that Johnny Herd had done very well in the recent cup game playing in this position.

Question 4 – related to the lack of cover at central defence.
Steve Tilson replied saying that if an injury occurred to either Adam Barrett or Peter Clarke then they would be looking to get a loanee in. Dean Austin is our chief scout and would have already identified someone to fulfil this role. The difficulty in signing someone would be the knowledge they would be coming in as a squad player.

Question 5 – asked if they regretted selling Gary Hooper.
Steve Tilson responded to this saying that Gary had never done anything at the club, he had been given opportunities but it just never happened for him with us. He said that he had got on well with him and that that was never the issue and that he was pleased he was doing so well. To be offered the money we were at the time made it a sensible decision to allow him to go. Ron Martin also commented on Michael Kightly, saying that if he had been with us now, under the current Youth set up, he wouldn’t have left but that the decision to let him go at that time had been the correct one.

Question 6 – asked if there was a sell on clause for Gary Hooper.
Ron Martin said yes there was, 20 or 25%, he thought the higher figure.

Question 7 – asked for any news on the situation with Peter Clarke and his contract.

Question 8 – highlighted the possibility of some revenue streams being gained form the Olympics, possibly by hiring out facilities for training.
Ron Martin said that he would happily consider anything to gain extra revenue but doubted the likelihood of this being possible, however he added that our stadium would be up and running long before theirs!
Question 9 – raised the question of the lack of information concerning the injury situation of our players, saying that there used to be a section in the matchday programmes giving updates but there seems to be very little now.
Ron Martin commented that he thought the Club was good at communicating information with the supporters He then went into detail relating to Dougie Freedman and Lee Barnard. Dave Scriven added that there would be an article appearing shortly in connection with this.

Question 10 – raised the matter of the four forwards, and how selection might be a problem when all were fit and what the preferred choices might be.
Paul Brush replied that that was a problem he greatly looked forward to. Steve Tilson said that it was great for people to take the opportunities when they came to them and that Alex Revell and Francis Laurent had both done so very well. He said that the team is only as good as the bench and how a substitute can be brought on to influence the game – Anthony Grant can come on to stabilise, and Dougie or Barney, when coming back to full fitness, can be brought on to help chase a game. Comment was made that we might see substitutions made earlier in those circumstances.

Question 11 – dealt with the tiredness of the players during the Colchester game, after the Leeds one a few days before, and why, if the management knew players were tired, didn’t they make the substitutions earlier.
Paul Brush acknowledged the tiredness factor but said the difficulty had been deciding who to take off the way the game was going, who was the tiredest.

Question 12 – made reference again to the dependency on the loan players, that those playing in the reserves yesterday didn’t seem to be able to offer anything to cover us up until January once the loanees return to their clubs.
Steve Tilson replied that we have players in mind, possibly from London clubs to bring in on loan from next week to help bridge the gap.

Question 13 – asked if they were confident Mildenhall would cope once Federici goes back.
Steve Tilson was very assertive on this, saying he absolutely has confidence in Mildenhall. He made reference to calls from the crowd for Darryl Flahavan and that all Mildenhall has done is take over from Flavs, he’s not guilty of anything else. He wants a goalkeeper of his size to command his box.

Question 14 – raised the point that the perspective from the stands is different to from the touchline and asked if Tilson ought to spend some time in the stands, as they seem to in some Premiership games.
Paul Brush said that he usually spends the first half hour or so at the back of the East and was aware of the difference in perspective.

Question 15 – returned to the goalkeeper question, saying there had been no shouts for Flavs since Federici came in.
Steve Tilson commented that Federici remains fully in Reading’s plans.
Question 16 – raised the question of Paul Furlong.
Steve Tilson said that Paul Furlong had come in as our first signing in the summer, that he was a fantastic professional, fantastic at training and fantastic in the dressing room and for morale. Discussion had been made with him about taking some training sessions with the younger forwards. Ron Martin said that it was about taking opportunities when they arise, Furlong had been available at a time when we only had 10 or 11 players on the books, and that team spirit is vital to our Club and the Ateve tilson is excellent at getting this right.

Question 17 – asked about the treatment of Kevin Maher.
Ron Martin said he has given Kevin his word that he will have a testimonial and that Kevin had requested this be at the new ground.

Question 18 – asked if they had ever considered playing Maher in defence.
The short answer to this was no, and it wouldn’t have suited him.

Question 19 – the person asking this question sat near the away dug out, and said he had noticed how vocal some opposing managers/coaches were, and asked if the players hear or understand what’s being shouted at them.
Steve Tilson said that in his opinion, if you do this all the time, the players just switch off. He noted the style of the Wycombe coach at yesterday’s reserve game and how he’d basically done a commentary the whole way through. He said that the players practise all week in training and know exactly what their job is on the day, so there’s not really the need to shout like this anyway.

At this point, Ron Martin asked Ricky Duncan to talk about the Youth players. Ricky said that their aim is to provide the Club with good, young potential, and that they were recruiting young players through the Centre of Excellence. He added that Stuart O’Keefe had signed a professional contract today. The under 20s squad is seen as a “corale”, as a lot of players get lost around the age of 18/19, as happened with Michael Kightly. These go out on loan to lower league clubs to gain experience. We have satellite units throughout London, recruited scouts and Open Days for local talent. Chelsea seem to be encroaching on our patch at the moment but that wasn’t necessarily a bad thing.

Question 20 – asked about youth player Medi Abalimba, and how he had got on during his spell with Liverpool.
Ricky Duncan said that this had followed on from a spell under Manchester United, and that both had done Medi well, and given him an insight of where he needs to be to achieve his potential. Comment was also made of his bilingual talents, that he speaks 5 languages fluently and acts as interpreter to players we get in on trial.

Question 21 – a gentleman felt that the current strip along with others in recent years, was too dull.
Ron Martin said that to have our own contract generated by Nike we would need to take 50k shirts and therefore have to have one of their existing contracted colour specs. The plan is to stay with Nike for the time being, and next year’s shirt could have a little more white in it. The gentleman was asked if he liked the new away kit, he seemed to be in a minority saying that he didn’t.

Question 22 – a long standing shareholder commented that this was the 1st AGM he had been to where the Accounts had been agreed with no questions asked, and that it was the most professional one he had been to. He went on to discuss the distribution of tickets for high profile games, specifically the Manchester United one and asked if shareholders could have some priority privileges, a subject which he had written to Geoffrey King about.
Ron Martin agreed in principle that shareholders obviously should have some privileges, but wasn’t sure if that should be the same as season ticket holders. There are also Trust members who could ask the same rights. He added that as a Club, we have one of the most advanced IT systems in the country and that this could easily be something that’s looked at.

Question 23 – more of a statement, it was noted that on 19th November 2008, Steve Tilson celebrates his 5th anniversary in the job and is the 8th longest serving manager in the country.
Steve Tilson looked suitably embarrassed, and was given a round of applause by those present.

Question 24 – were there any doubts that the stadium won’t be going ahead?
Ron Martin said that Plan b would be to stay where we are, but that we have the right structure in place from the sale of Roots Hall, and the revenue generated by the retail area. He expects to be on site in March 2009, with the retail area functioning in July 2010, with the stadium open in March 2011.

The Meeting was drawn to a close at 9.20 p.m. with Ron Martin thanking those in attendance and inviting everyone to share in refreshments provided.


Notes taken buy OBL who we thank for doing the un-enviable task of note-taking and typing this article.
 
Cheers Kay & Ken.

A good read and the thing I found most interesting was that we do indeed have a 20-25% sell on fee for Hooper, which is fantastic news financially.
 
that Alex Revell and Francis Laurent had both done so very well

I can just imagine this "Yeah, like I said, they've done ever so well, worked their socks off in fact!!!"

Excellent report there Kay.

Do you know if shareholders who were absent will get a copy of the actual minutes?

Shame the big move's now been put back to spring 2011 though :thumbdown:
 
Cheers Ken and Kay a good interesting read there.
 
I guess 69!!

Good work Kay in taking down the notes and taking the time to type it all up.

I don't understand though - why all the secrecy regarding what went on at the agm? Nothing too out of the ordinary in the report.
 
I guess 69!!

Good work Kay in taking down the notes and taking the time to type it all up.

I don't understand though - why all the secrecy regarding what went on at the agm? Nothing too out of the ordinary in the report.

No secrecy intended, there were elements that we were asked not to discuss outside the chambers relating to contracts. I mailed the copy to Ken early this morning, and I guess they've just been checking through to make sure there's nothing there potentially libellous (which I was aware they would need to).

Sorry though Ant, we forgot to ask about your beloved Richie!
 
Way, way off!

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Higher or lower than 25?
Good game, good game!!!
 
Good work all involved. I imagined it would be more about finances and development plans as opposed to questioning the managers ability and transfer record though? Seems like a very open, honest debate.

Though whoever asked Question 18 should be forced to give up their shares to me...
 
The only bits left out were Ron and Tilly's personal comments about any players and details of which players were to be awarded what length of contract (perhaps even the people concerned don't even know yet).
 
any ideas if they will repeat the share issue? just didnt have the cash before.
 
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