Here’s the article for those who haven’t read it:
https://yellowad.co.uk/southend-uni...gain-but-council-refuses-to-say-for-how-long/
https://yellowad.co.uk/southend-uni...gain-but-council-refuses-to-say-for-how-long/
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Question Stadium update please!
- Thread starter RobM
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teabee1
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Maybe the further delay is so the now official Roots Hall development can be taken into consideration at the same time.
MK Shrimper
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The only logical conclusion I can come up with, is that the plans that we’ve submitted are potentially, somewhat unclear & vague in certain areas, and therefore need more time to risk-assess?
Let’s be rational, it won’t be a case of our application being put at the bottom of a pile, or in a draw, and the council haven’t had time to get around to it yet. They’d have gone over everything with a fine tooth comb by now I’d imagine.
I should add that I’ve got absolutely no insight on this whatsoever, and am purely speculating. However, one might have assumed that if everything was crystal clear, black & white, cut and dry in our application.... then there’d be no plausible reason to delay a decision.
There’s certainly more to this than meets the eye, though.
It's not going to happen. Move the club to Basildon.
Or Grays? We’re similar to Southend in many ways, and whilst we don’t have a pier or a Rossi shop, we’ve got our fair share of junkies, ASBO children & slosh pots
Or Milton Keynes?
Now, there’s no need for that. Junkies and slosh pots are one thing, but all those roundabouts? Come on
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Firestorm
Pedant
Seaway plans are not advanced enough so the council prevaricate again , whilst alluding to the delay being down to the applicant.
If the delays were someone’s else’s fault they would have been explaining them further so that no one would consider them responsible.
RM is in so deep he has to play the councils game, walking away is not an option as it would mean instant insolvency for his companies , himself (as he is personal guarantor according to that court case last month), and the football club.Primarily as all the borrowing is against future income which will immediately vanish should the project get pulled.
If the delays were someone’s else’s fault they would have been explaining them further so that no one would consider them responsible.
RM is in so deep he has to play the councils game, walking away is not an option as it would mean instant insolvency for his companies , himself (as he is personal guarantor according to that court case last month), and the football club.Primarily as all the borrowing is against future income which will immediately vanish should the project get pulled.
rigsby
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You could try asking Ron politely. That approach has worked for me in the past.
Swiss Tony
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No surprise,the council doesn't give a rats arse for Martin and his future.
That's nearer the truth I reckon.
Council eye up deal on Roots Hall homes
Southend Council is keen on conjuring up a deal to help manage the ambitious plans to build 502 homes on Roots Hall, once Southend United has moved out.
The housing plans, which were unveiled last month, will move forward if the football club successfully gains planning permission to build a new 21,000-seater stadium at Fossetts Farm.
To help fund the move, senior councillors are now considering formulating a potentially lucrative deal, with the developer Citizen Housing, where the authority would become the site’s leaseholder.
While this is likely to come at a significant cost to the council, it would mean the authority would have a management role and retain income earned through properties rented at the site.
Furthermore, once the leasehold term ends, the council could gain full ownership of the development, and all future income.
The immediate benefits to the developer and landowner Citizen Housing would be a hefty cash injection from the council in return for leaseholder status.
However, details of any deal remain vague as plans for Roots Hall are still being refined.
But it is expected that 170 of the 500 homes will be affordable housing, with up to 100 of those social rented.
The council’s cabinet will explore the possibility of a deal during a meeting next Tuesday.
Council leader Ian Gilbert hopes any deal would again show the council’s commitment to getting people off the streets and into their own homes.
He said: “As part of our joint administration agreement, we promised to provide new social housing and key worker housing as a priority.
“I am pleased to announce that we have already identified some families in temporary accommodation who are now in a position to move into their new homes, and that’s before Christmas.
“Southend is among the least affordable places to live in the UK when you consider the average local wage against the average property rental price.
“At the same time, the demand for truly affordable housing continues to exponentially outstrip supply.”
The meeting will also include a discussion purchasing 16 private properties that can be converted into social housing, three of which have already bought and another 13 are under offer.
In total they are expected to cost £4.14million financed through money from the right-to-buy scheme, that allowed council house tenants to purchase their homes, and through reserves in the council’s Housing Revenue Account – a pot of money used for managing housing revenue and expenditure.
They are expected to create a “revolving investment fund” where the profit generated through renting the properties is used to finance a range other housing projects, including more council homes.
Similar plans could see 24 flats built on the Ilfracombe Avenue car park in Southchurch and revenue from that development being used to carry out the refurbishment of Southchurch Library.
Full Story
Southend Council is keen on conjuring up a deal to help manage the ambitious plans to build 502 homes on Roots Hall, once Southend United has moved out.
The housing plans, which were unveiled last month, will move forward if the football club successfully gains planning permission to build a new 21,000-seater stadium at Fossetts Farm.
To help fund the move, senior councillors are now considering formulating a potentially lucrative deal, with the developer Citizen Housing, where the authority would become the site’s leaseholder.
While this is likely to come at a significant cost to the council, it would mean the authority would have a management role and retain income earned through properties rented at the site.
Furthermore, once the leasehold term ends, the council could gain full ownership of the development, and all future income.
The immediate benefits to the developer and landowner Citizen Housing would be a hefty cash injection from the council in return for leaseholder status.
However, details of any deal remain vague as plans for Roots Hall are still being refined.
But it is expected that 170 of the 500 homes will be affordable housing, with up to 100 of those social rented.
The council’s cabinet will explore the possibility of a deal during a meeting next Tuesday.
Council leader Ian Gilbert hopes any deal would again show the council’s commitment to getting people off the streets and into their own homes.
He said: “As part of our joint administration agreement, we promised to provide new social housing and key worker housing as a priority.
“I am pleased to announce that we have already identified some families in temporary accommodation who are now in a position to move into their new homes, and that’s before Christmas.
“Southend is among the least affordable places to live in the UK when you consider the average local wage against the average property rental price.
“At the same time, the demand for truly affordable housing continues to exponentially outstrip supply.”
The meeting will also include a discussion purchasing 16 private properties that can be converted into social housing, three of which have already bought and another 13 are under offer.
In total they are expected to cost £4.14million financed through money from the right-to-buy scheme, that allowed council house tenants to purchase their homes, and through reserves in the council’s Housing Revenue Account – a pot of money used for managing housing revenue and expenditure.
They are expected to create a “revolving investment fund” where the profit generated through renting the properties is used to finance a range other housing projects, including more council homes.
Similar plans could see 24 flats built on the Ilfracombe Avenue car park in Southchurch and revenue from that development being used to carry out the refurbishment of Southchurch Library.
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'Southend Council is keen on conjuring up a deal to help manage the ambitious plans to build 502 homes on Roots Hall, once Southend United has moved out. '
If they're keen then ****ing approve our plans for the new stadium!!!!
If they're keen then ****ing approve our plans for the new stadium!!!!
Napster
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aaah
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/11720193/officers
Citizen Housing is run by Ron's son.
rigsby
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So the council saying no one will be allowed develop RH until the club has a new ground and are able to play matches there........Might not be as cast in stone as it was 12 months ago.
As we all know a politicians promise only has a very short shelf life in the brave new world.
As we all know a politicians promise only has a very short shelf life in the brave new world.
enfieldblue
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Blueronron
Manager
Down and out person
Of course. They own the site and are overseeing the building of the properties. Who else would it have been?!
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