If you really think that, let me ask you this then, do you think we would have avoided relegation if he played the rest of the season?
No.
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If you really think that, let me ask you this then, do you think we would have avoided relegation if he played the rest of the season?
Right so we're agreed then that having good players all over the pitch is a good thing? I'm glad we got to the bottom of that!
Of course it's important, and I never said to the contrary. You are now wriggling like a politician, and saying things I never said. This is getting silly.
Personally I think that having a great goal keeper is one of the most important factors. However I accept that I am wrong, just look at the prices that are paid for players. Surely this simple fact proves that the most important player on the pitch is the one that scores the most goals?
It proves that the most important player to the fans is the one that scores goals.
The last few years we've consistently had between 4 and 7 strikers on our books, yet the chants on the terrace were never for another midfielder, defender or goalkeeper, they were always for another striker or goalscorer. Strikers get the glory and stick in the memory of supporters, which is why they drive such a high transfer fee.
goals win games. beautiful football and clean sheets do not.
You are Kevin Keegan circa 1998 and I claim my £5.
I honestly don't understand what you are saying. I thought we'd just agreed?
This is a quote from Paul 'Sturrock on West Ham', ironically. * 'Icing on the cake' would be a clinical finisher or two.
Is he wrong as well?
It proves that the most important player to the fans is the one that scores goals.
The last few years we've consistently had between 4 and 7 strikers on our books, yet the chants on the terrace were never for another midfielder, defender or goalkeeper, they were always for another striker or goalscorer. Strikers get the glory and stick in the memory of supporters, which is why they drive such a high transfer fee.
This is a quote from Paul 'Sturrock on West Ham', ironically. * 'Icing on the cake' would be a clinical finisher or two.
Is he wrong as well?
You seem to be saying that supporters dictate transfer fees ?
I understand what you are saying, and you could use Foran as an example to illistrate your point
I understand with premiership teams that a make up of the transfer fee is on how many shirts they will sell , what will the gate receipts go up by , and so to that extent I can see that the ecomonics of fans comes into play. But you seem to be going one rather large step further than this.
I think cahirman pay more money for proven goalscorers because ot is the most difficult position on the field , it is the most influential position regarding winning a game, and the differences between sucess and failure can be so narrow. No other position has all of this
I also feel pretty confident that last season there were more threads on here to get in a decent centre back than anything on getting in strikers.
This is a quote from Paul 'Sturrock on West Ham', ironically. * 'Icing on the cake' would be a clinical finisher or two.
Is he wrong as well?
Icing doesn't work by itself, you need the cake as well.
Whereas you can eat cake without icing.
I think he's saying he has the cake, now he just needs the icing.
Still, what does he know about football?
Obviously we are both over rating good strikers, even tho without one, we will probably finish about 7th. With one I feel we'll finish top Three.
This is my point, you are right we weren't. When he left, I think the next best scorer was on 2 or 3 goals. He did his goalscoring bit, the rest of the team sadly did not.
We can argue this until the cows come home, but I've been watching football for 40 years, and I know the importance of a goalscorer. Getting relegated with one is extremely rare, and getting automatic promotion without one is rare.
I think it included a couple of cup games, but he definitely played over half the league games.
As Beefy has already pointed out that with him in the side we scored 1.1 goals a game and without him we scored 1.05 goals a game, selling him probably wasn't the problem.....