The Eurovision Song Contest, Lol.

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

I thought she went out of tune a few times during Like a Prayer.

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

Lol, all the political voting already.

 

[OldBlueLady]

Norway give us our first points!

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

WOW, North Macedonia, if they win it, were 200/1 before the start. It could all change of course with the public vote.

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

Georgia always gave Russia 12 points every year. Now they've fallen out.....no points. Cyprus to Greece.....Greece to Cyprus 12 points to each other as every year. San Marino 12 points to Italy. That's like Canvey giving the UK 12 points.
Why can't they vote on the songs like in the 60s and 70s?

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

Point proven I'm afraid. We can never win it. Stone last, and we were better than a lot of them.

 

[Mad Cyril]

Glad the Swedish bloke didn't win. He was a ****

 

[Napster]

Iceland lt with Palestine flags was lol

 

[OldBlueLady]

Competition has got too big. Time to pull out and stop the funding.


Hmmm.......sounds familiar!

 

[RobM]

I do a bit of stage lighting for bands and I was impressed - the pyrotechnics, moving heads - must have cost a fortune!

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

Competition has got too big. Time to pull out and stop the funding.


Hmmm.......sounds familiar!

It wouldn't be so bad if we had a fair playing field where we had a chance to win it. But each year it's just showing how the rest of Europe is not keen on us. So it's embarrassing and money down the drain.
That poor lad will be known for coming last the rest of his life, but it's not his fault.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

It wouldn't be so bad if we had a fair playing field where we had a chance to win it. But each year it's just showing how the rest of Europe is not keen on us. So it's embarrassing and money down the drain.
That poor lad will be known for coming last the rest of his life, but it's not his fault.

True, but it’s also about how the BBC keeps getting it wrong.

Sending a very worthy youngster with an ok song and naff all production or costume effort isn’t enough for us, for the reason you gave. We need to stand out to do well - like Netta did for Israel last year. Yes, the winner this year was boring but it wasn’t from one of the ‘permanent finalists’, it wasn’t from Germany, France or the UK who are seen as the biggest of the big boys. We also don’t have enough connection to our neighbours that they will vote for us. Brits abroad are also not voting for us as frankly they can’t be arsed and prefer wherever they buggered off to, unlike Russians abroad who would vote for a vacuum cleaner if it was representing Mother Russia.

We can’t do anything about any of those other factors, other than pulling out of the EBU which - likely as not - would just see us never in the final.

What we can do is stop some lemon in the BBC Music Unit picking a song and three or four likeable but otherwise forgettable unknowns to sing it. We need to get someone with a clue and start making a proper effort.

 

[Benfleet A1]

The perfect eurovision artist for us would be a screaming queer drag queen in black. Camp it up to the max and watch that baby romp home.

Just look at past winners. The more bent and outlandish the better.

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

True, but it’s also about how the BBC keeps getting it wrong.

Sending a very worthy youngster with an ok song and naff all production or costume effort isn’t enough for us, for the reason you gave. We need to stand out to do well - like Netta did for Israel last year. Yes, the winner this year was boring but it wasn’t from one of the ‘permanent finalists’, it wasn’t from Germany, France or the UK who are seen as the biggest of the big boys. We also don’t have enough connection to our neighbours that they will vote for us. Brits abroad are also not voting for us as frankly they can’t be arsed and prefer wherever they buggered off to, unlike Russians abroad who would vote for a vacuum cleaner if it was representing Mother Russia.

We can’t do anything about any of those other factors, other than pulling out of the EBU which - likely as not - would just see us never in the final.

What we can do is stop some lemon in the BBC Music Unit picking a song and three or four likeable but otherwise forgettable unknowns to sing it. We need to get someone with a clue and start making a proper effort.

Some very good points there Spaceman. Regarding someone with a clue, we tried Engelbert Humperdink and Bonnie Tyler because they were still extremely popular in Europe at the time, performing to sell out crowds. But they still bombed. I think Europe likes to show their disdain for us, so we've had it no matter our singer, song or presentation.

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

The perfect eurovision artist for us would be a screaming queer drag queen in black. Camp it up to the max and watch that baby romp home.

Just look at past winners. The more bent and outlandish the better.

Rylan Clark in a long dress might do it.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Some very good points there Spaceman. Regarding someone with a clue, we tried Engelbert Humperdink and Bonnie Tyler because they were still extremely popular in Europe at the time, performing to sell out crowds. But they still bombed. I think Europe likes to show their disdain for us, so we've had it no matter our singer, song or presentation.

That last point is absolutely true, it seems to me. Part of that may also be because there is so much British music they hear all the time. They don’t want to give us this too!

The person with a clue I meant was the one in charge of the process for the UK entry, rather than the act. Englebert and Bonnie we both wrong choices, just for a different reason.

The final thing we need to do, when we’ve got a standout act with a song that suits them and innovative production is to release and heavily promote the song across Europe before the finals. It’s no surprise that all the top 5 songs in the last few years have all done that - including the boring Dutch winner this year. People know the song, like it already then they vote for it. Simples. The BBC just doesn’t get it.

 

[RHB]

With the continuing outstanding success of British music across Europe and the world it is totally beyond me why we continue to take part in this freak show. Politicially we get stuffed regardless of our selection and no songwriter worth his /her salt is going to risk their reputation by entering anything. I'm not even sure it's great television any more. Once upon a time it was compulsory viewing, but now, meh! Lets just continue extracting royalties from everywhere from our regular musical contributions to pop etc and leave the inane weird stuff to Europe and anywhere pretending to be in Europe. By all means televise it for those that need their fix but maybe on BBC3 or iPlayer only.

 

[Swiss Tony]

How can the country with the greatest music industry history on the planet finish last in a third rate sing off,because it's bent that's why,we must stop paying for this circus.

 

[kaymac]

True, but it’s also about how the BBC keeps getting it wrong.

Sending a very worthy youngster with an ok song and naff all production or costume effort isn’t enough for us, for the reason you gave. We need to stand out to do well - like Netta did for Israel last year. Yes, the winner this year was boring but it wasn’t from one of the ‘permanent finalists’, it wasn’t from Germany, France or the UK who are seen as the biggest of the big boys. We also don’t have enough connection to our neighbours that they will vote for us. Brits abroad are also not voting for us as frankly they can’t be arsed and prefer wherever they buggered off to, unlike Russians abroad who would vote for a vacuum cleaner if it was representing Mother Russia.

We can’t do anything about any of those other factors, other than pulling out of the EBU which - likely as not - would just see us never in the final.

What we can do is stop some lemon in the BBC Music Unit picking a song and three or four likeable but otherwise forgettable unknowns to sing it. We need to get someone with a clue and start making a proper effort.

What we need is to stop entering !! BBC licence fee money shouldn't be wasted on such junk / rubbish / puerile tripe.....

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

What we need is to stop entering !! BBC licence fee money shouldn't be wasted on such junk / rubbish / puerile tripe.....

Or just take it off the BBC and let one of the commercial broadcasters take it on