The inevitable impact of Covid19

[Tribal Chief]

Eh???? Well, would appear you encountered no negative or life threatening affects from the vaccine since you‘re still amongst the living…..how do you account for that then?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1613840620551806976

 

[hlane17]

My eyes don't deceive me. I refrained from sharing this before but as it's becoming more acceptable to talk about it, I had a serious worry about a friend who I played football with.

He had his third vaccination (at 21) and played the next day. Within 10 mins he looked visibly concerned and said his heart was beating uncontrollably. Thought for a minute that he might collapse, dreaded the thought that I might have to perform CPR on a mate. He rested up in the weeks after this incident, suspected myocarditis.

Not the only person I know to fall ill due to this.

Another friend (20 years old) was admitted to hospital in November for 2 weeks with serious myocarditis. He still suffers now with low energy and fatigue. Had to have the jabs to keep his job. Now he struggles to even do his job.

I'm not saying that this will have occurred to everyone who took the vaccinations. They will have saved people who were older or more vulnerable too.

But the consequences in younger people are starting to come out. Two people in my immediate circle of 8-10 people suffered. I thought I'd give my perspective from people in their 20s.

 

[Sandbach Shrimper]

How long have you been a keyboard comedian?

You never actually argue with anything I say, you just make snide/sarcastic comments. You carry on burying your head in the sand if you want and believing everything BBC News tells you.

 

[tia]

I think the thing with Covid the illness itself and vaccination risk there are circumstances where both arguments can make valid points.My fit 32 year old brother in law was very unwell with covid in hospital few days blood clots on lungs breathing apparatus etc see horrible things in there.Then a local fella in hid 60s had all vaccinations and a blood clot caused him to lose a leg and he is convinced it was his vaccinations.I am fully vaccinated but it's a personal choice each to there own

 

[Sandbach Shrimper]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1613840620551806976

I'm amazed the BBC had him on - maybe they didn't know he was going to say that. I guess the elephant in the room is getting harder to ignore. Predictably they're being criticised for daring to interview someone who goes against the vaccine dogma. I thought science was supposed to be about questioning things based on evidence.

 

[Dave Smiths Love Child]

I'm amazed the BBC had him on - maybe they didn't know he was going to say that. I guess the elephant in the room is getting harder to ignore. Predictably they're being criticised for daring to interview someone who goes against the vaccine dogma. I thought science was supposed to be about questioning things based on evidence.

True SS, but there a idiots who believe man didn't land on the moon. so always open to debate with them, but you never can win, as they are so set in the ways of conspiracy theories, gives them lonely nights researching something to do before Pornhub and their mums go to bed

UTS

 

[WhiteNoise]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1613840620551806976

this cardiologist isn't a specific expert on this and the BBC should know better than to air fringe views. He doesn't even work within the NHS, and he doesn't do any research relevant to this question. Sadly being a medic doesn't make you immune from starting to go down a rabbit hole based on social media/podcasts/youtube etc.

A reminder that myocarditis is not uncommon in people who have had, or have, COVID-19. Myocarditis due to the vaccine is extremely rare, and in these cases it's often mild.

 

[Tribal Chief]

this cardiologist isn't a specific expert on this and the BBC should know better than to air fringe views. He doesn't even work within the NHS, and he doesn't do any research relevant to this question. Sadly being a medic doesn't make you immune from starting to go down a rabbit hole based on social media/podcasts/youtube etc.

A reminder that myocarditis is not uncommon in people who have had, or have, COVID-19. Myocarditis due to the vaccine is extremely rare, and in these cases it's often mild.

'the BBC should know better than to air fringe views' - good grief.

 

[Tribal Chief]

True SS, but there a idiots who believe man didn't land on the moon. so always open to debate with them, but you never can win, as they are so set in the ways of conspiracy theories, gives them lonely nights researching something to do before Pornhub and their mums go to bed

UTS

I don't believe that man has ever landed on the moon. And I'm more of an xhamster man myself.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

I don't believe that man has ever landed on the moon. And I'm more of an xhamster man myself.

But I remember seeing the pictures on BBC1 back in 1969.

 

[ESG]

I don't believe that man has ever landed on the moon. And I'm more of an xhamster man myself.

That reminds me I need to renew my platinum subscription

 

[Sandbach Shrimper]

this cardiologist isn't a specific expert on this and the BBC should know better than to air fringe views. He doesn't even work within the NHS, and he doesn't do any research relevant to this question. Sadly being a medic doesn't make you immune from starting to go down a rabbit hole based on social media/podcasts/youtube etc.

A reminder that myocarditis is not uncommon in people who have had, or have, COVID-19. Myocarditis due to the vaccine is extremely rare, and in these cases it's often mild.

It wasn't based on social media it was based on his father dying of a cardiac arrest after he'd had his booster, which prompted him to do further research. Why does it matter if he works in the NHS or not? He's a very respected cardiologist, not some crackpot 'conspiracy theorist'.

On your second point, this is from the BMJ: "The Pfizer and Moderna clinical trial reanalysis by Fraiman and colleagues indicated the mRNA vaccines were associated with an additional serious adverse event for every 800 people vaccinated, far more than the 1-2 for each million reported for vaccines in general." So not that rare.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Beware of a possible 5th wave.

 

[Sandbach Shrimper]

New study finds masks in hospitals made "no discernible difference" to infection rates: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...erence-Covid-infection-rates-study-finds.html

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

New study finds masks in hospitals made "no discernible difference" to infection rates: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...erence-Covid-infection-rates-study-finds.html

That perhaps explains why it's no longer deemed necessary to wear masks in SOS & Basildon hospitals although theyre still required here in Spain (and at health centres too),

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

That perhaps explains why it's no longer deemed necessary to wear masks in SOS & Basildon hospitals although theyre still required her in Spain (and at health centres too),

Masks are still available and recommended but not mandatory.
Hand sanitizer is also in free and abundant locations at all entrances to the hospital and individual wards, yet few choose to use it.
Most staff I have seen do both masks and hand hygiene.
Public..... not so much.

And, personally, this time around I won't be having a booster jab.
Not that I am advocating that just that for me, fairly fit etc it doesn't seem on balance necessary.
I will isolate if infected despite that also, now, be non mandatory.

 

[* ORM *]

Asia update.

HK no longer mandatory for some weeks. Still 70 percent wearing on public transport and still far too many including families with young kids wearing them in wide open air. Stories of Kids at school terrified to take them off.

Bangkok, mandatory on public transport, no one told me and the other tourists that on the airport train to city ha ha (but no one moaned). Out and about probably 15-20 percent still wearing.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Asia update.

HK no longer mandatory for some weeks. Still 70 percent wearing on public transport and still far too many including families with young kids wearing them in wide open air. Stories of Kids at school terrified to take them off.

Bangkok, mandatory on public transport, no one told me and the other tourists that on the airport train to city ha ha (but no one moaned). Out and about probably 15-20 percent still wearing.

Very few people are now wearing facemasks on Barna public transport.Restrictions were lifted some weeks ago now.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

The UK Guv covid tracking app has been closed.
Nothing said by UK Guv on doing this, which I found strange, and not reported in main stream press.
Not much on new, virulent Indian strain either.

 

[pottster]

The UK Guv covid tracking app has been closed.
Nothing said by UK Guv on doing this, which I found strange, and not reported in main stream press.
Not much on new, virulent Indian strain either.

It's all just a bad dream, and swept under the carpet!