The Labour Assassins and The Tory victory.

[Cricko]

Firstly congratulations to The Tories and their overall majority. The people have spoken and the result is how it is. Some of the equations are quite frankly ridiculous though...The SNP with 1.5 million votes gaining 56 odd seats and UKIP with 4 million gaining 1 seat ...This way of voting has to be addressed in the future.

Labour were ambushed from both sides, they got what they deserved for sitting on a fence.It became a battle of personalities and Ed could never match DC.

You know I once was a staunch Tory. In my very successful time in life between about 25 to 40 I always loved them as money always seemed to slush about the economy with much more ease.. I would go as far as to say this result will actually profit me now with my business.

I have seen so many different styles of politics, I must say I hate the way now big business and the media seem to control the thoughts of others with propaganda and fear at every corner.

Labour haven't been Labour for years, just another page of the deep seated, lets just think about the money and how it effects me personally attitude of most today..This is not a knock at anybody, just stating a fact.

I changed my views on politics a few years back when I saw the suffering of so many at the hands of the rich...Lets face it austerity has only really affected one area of the people.

The world wide banking crisis which we as the people bailed out gave the tories an excuse to blame the previous incumbents for this, no matter that if the boot has been on the other foot they would of done the same.


In summary. I have probably seen my life through a number of elections, I am not really a person to judge any more...it is the life and future of much younger people than me...

You voted your choice and you all live with that. Once again well done The Tories, just please think of those less fortunate than yourselves in future.

 

[Firestorm]

Firstly congratulations to The Tories and their overall majority. The people have spoken and the result is how it is. Some of the equations are quite frankly ridiculous though...The SNP with 1.5 million votes gaining 56 odd seats and UKIP with 4 million gaining 1 seat ...This way of voting has to be addressed in the future.

Labour were ambushed from both sides, they got what they deserved for sitting on a fence.It became a battle of personalities and Ed could never match DC.

You know I once was a staunch Tory. In my very successful time in life between about 25 to 40 I always loved them as money always seemed to slush about the economy with much more ease.. I would go as far as to say this result will actually profit me now with my business.

I have seen so many different styles of politics, I must say I hate the way now big business and the media seem to control the thoughts of others with propaganda and fear at every corner.

Labour haven't been Labour for years, just another page of the deep seated, lets just think about the money and how it effects me personally attitude of most today..This is not a knock at anybody, just stating a fact.

I changed my views on politics a few years back when I saw the suffering of so many at the hands of the rich...Lets face it austerity has only really affected one area of the people.

The world wide banking crisis which we as the people bailed out gave the tories an excuse to blame the previous incumbents for this, no matter that is the boot has been on the other foot they would of done the same.


In summary I have probably seen my life through a number of elections, I am not really a person to judge any more...it is the life and future of much younger people than me...

You voted your choice and you all live with that. Once again well done The Tories, just please think of those less fortunate than yourselves in future.

You are being a tad hopeful Cricko,

 

[Cricko]

You are being a tad hopeful Cricko,

True Gary, I would bet most will be supping Champagne and eating strawberries whilst their conscience and humanity takes a holiday (if they had one) in the Bahamas with a rich buddy.

 

[mrsblue]

True Gary, I would bet most will be supping Champagne and eating strawberries whilst their conscience and humanity takes a holiday (if they had one) in the Bahamas with a rich buddy.

Just seen a non Dom driving his Bentley chuckling away uncontrollably ,oh wait:winking:

 

[Neil_F]

True Gary, I would bet most will be supping Champagne and eating strawberries whilst their conscience and humanity takes a holiday (if they had one) in the Bahamas with a rich buddy.

Do you seriously think that people voting Conservative don't care for anyone and are only interested in lining their own pockets?

 

[Cricko]

I doubt I will get much response.

 

[Firestorm]

Do you seriously think that people voting Conservative don't care for anyone and are only interested in lining their own pockets?

Its not that they don't care, its what is the higher priority.
Thats their choice and they are entitle to vote whichever way they want, but welfare comes at a cost and some choose to vote for themselves as opposed to the community as a whole.

 

[Cricko]

Do you seriously think that people voting Conservative don't care for anyone and are only interested in lining their own pockets?

Yes 100% .Without doubt....100% facto... you don't give a **** about the poor or suffering as long as your pockets are lined.....Rich first .**** the poor.

 

[steveo]

Yes 100% .Without doubt....100% facto... you don't give a **** about the poor or suffering as long as your pockets are lined.....Rich first .**** the poor.

Complete rubbish and a total generalisation. I know a Labour voter who is too lazy to work, claims every benefit possible but still manages to drink and smoke. So every Labour voter must be the same.

 

[Cricko]

Complete rubbish and a total generalisation. I know a Labour voter who is too lazy to work, claims every benefit possible but still manages to drink and smoke. So every Labour voter must be the same.

What are you doing as a Tory to change their mental attitude, apart from stepping on them as you reach for your Costa ?

 

[manor15]

This tweet summed it up for me...

Not that I'm a Lily Allen fan, but this guy just can't comprehend that someone would consider anyone other than themselves when deciding how to vote

 

[steveo]

What are you doing as a Tory to change their mental attitude, apart from stepping on them as you reach for your Costa ?

I did actually offer the person a job but he didn't fancy getting up early. And I don't drink coffee. Another generalisation bites the dust.

 

[Neil_F]

Yes 100% .Without doubt....100% facto... you don't give a **** about the poor or suffering as long as your pockets are lined.....Rich first .**** the poor.

Such anger and bitterness.

i voted Conservative because capitalism and free markets have lifted four billion people out of absolute poverty and there is 250 years of evidence to suggest it is the best economic system to raise living standards for the highest number of people.

Price and income controls and tax and spend fiscal policy as advocated by the Labour Party have almost always resulted in declining living standards.

i don't doubt Miliband's intentions I just think his methods are wrong. If you think I'm selfish without knowing anything about me it is entirely your right. I feel sorry for you though that you believe people that disagree with you are either evil or intellectually inferior.

 

[Benfleet A1]

What are you doing as a Tory to change their mental attitude, apart from stepping on them as you reach for your Costa ?

With regards to the Costa, I always make sure the lids on tight as I step over them and go back to work, this mansion I live in doesn't pay for it's self you know.

 

[OldBlueLady]

Admire the sentiments Cricko, but you only have to speak to our newly re-elected Castle Point MP to know that the generalisation about Tory MPs is untrue. She cares, sometimes too much.

In my opinion, those at the top of the Labour tree are every bit as bad as you cite the Tories for being. There's more than a few public school educated, and children in private school types amongst them. Time for a mass re-evaluation of core party policies and chucking out the old Blair hymn sheets. Labour need to find their own identity again, the general public has seen through its promises of giving to whoever and is now asking where it's going to fund these things from. Spectacular fall from grace by Milliband.

More importantly, can someone please tell me what SamCam's dress was all about? Looked like she had a high vis bib attached to her back!

 

[Cricko]

Such anger and bitterness.

i voted Conservative because capitalism and free markets have lifted four billion people out of absolute poverty and there is 250 years of evidence to suggest it is the best economic system to raise living standards for the highest number of people.

Price and income controls and tax and spend fiscal policy as advocated by the Labour Party have almost always resulted in declining living standards.

i don't doubt Miliband's intentions I just think his methods are wrong. If you think I'm selfish without knowing anything about me it is entirely your right. I feel sorry for you though that you believe people that disagree with you are either evil or intellectually inferior.

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There are none so blind that those who cannot see.

You crack on with your ideal world of delusion and ideals fed to you by a media that is so corrupt it has become laughable .....

You feel sorry for me...some day you will eat those words.

 

[Neil_F]

The arrogance is simply breathtaking

 

[* ORM *]

JC please don't think that everyone that votes Conservative is a *******. I'm not a true blue Tory but I am anything BUT labour. In my lifetime either under socialist ideals or in their shift to the centre ground they have mishandled the economy and the running of this,country EVERY time they were in power. I didn't understand the 3 day weeks and power cuts when I was a kid. I did understand the power that the unions had over the country in the late 70s. I did understand that once great companies like British Leyland were destroyed from the inside with poor productivity even when the workers weren't on strike. I did understand that while Scargill was leading the miners into oblivion he was hardly suffering personally (and same with Bob Crowe). Were Maggie's and the police's tactics agreeable? Probably not to those on strike. Were they effective ? Yes in effectively winning back the balance of power and destroying the grip over the country.

Labour as you and I knew it went in the 90s. I've got to be honest the Blairites and central ground Labour was probably correct for the country at the time they came in. The Tory's were bloated, devisive and corrupt. But it soon became apparent to me thT there was an element of Emporers new clothes, long before the financial crisis of the mid 2000s. Thankfully Gordon Brown was chancellor at the time and had the sense to do what was right to some extent. Labour died when John Smith died, though some of the ideals lived on by those that remained. I had grudging respect for the likes of Hattersley, loved Tony Benn and even dear old Dennis Skinner.

Whether you like it or not the people have spoken. Even in a poor turnout people speak by not voting. The country is in an interesting place. I firmly believe from an economic point of view the mandate the Tories now have to make tough decisions is the right one but they need to get that right. Their majority is slim. Scotland has spoken clearly. In the aftermath of the yes/no campaign I'd actually like them to be given another referendum without the hyperbole from both sides of the camp.

More interesting to me is the fact that UKIP are now the third party and the conservative share of the vote stayed pretty much the same. I actually see further shifts towards UKIP from both labour and liberal voters. To those lib voters that have rammed PR down our throats for 30 years where are your voices now ?

Don't be downbeat John. Two party politics in this country is finished and I honestly think we will be in a better place for it. No place for political complacency in a multi party world. That's why I don't think you will see the slash and cut politics that wave previously seen from Tories. I trust them to do what's right. If they don't the people will vote and the people are NOT stupid.

 

[Mad Cyril]

Plenty of Labour supporters were happy to sail over the horizon on a tide of rising property prices in the late 90's and early 00's and I didn't hear them calling for help for those left behind.....

 

[steveo]

And how about a mention for some of your socialist heroes? Say Billy Brag for example. you can still, buy one of his 2 quid manufactured in the Philippines T Shirts for 19.95. How about Tony Benn who unfortunately died in his £750,000 West London flat after moving out of his £3M house presumably bought with the profits to the 10+ books he wrote, or maybe working class hero Russell Brand who moans about Amazon not paying enough tax but as we speak has 7 of his books on sale there.
if we are going to generalise lets include some of the people you admire so much.

you seem to be ignoring the fact that most of these loud mouth left wingers after happy to say you should share the wealth after they have made their own fortune.