Time to stop charity fat cats.

[Tangled up in Blue]

That's leader by the end of 2017 then :winking:

Ha! I could possibly be convinced that Labour will lose the next G/E in 2020 or whenever and inevitably a new leader will be elected but it certainly won't be DM (or any other Blairite).

(Back on topic). FWIW,my wife has donated on a monthly basis for some years now, to Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF).

They seem to do a lot of good work,IMO.

(Once taught a couple of doctors who were going to work for them but I charged for my services I'm afraid).

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

You can stick Children in Need and it's associated 'luvvieness' where the sun don't shine. Same goes for all the other big headline charities that bombard our TV's etc with tragic adds fr this that and the other. The ONLY one I ever give to now is H4H and that's the way it will stay.

Now, local charities where you know where the money is actually going. (if you can be bothered to look and find out, which you should if your giving them some of your hard earned) That is where it starts for me and my household.

I tend to agree with you Mr B. The big charities do need to clean up their working practices.
Locally I haven't been that impressed by the management/board of the Havens Hospices BUT they have some great staff and volunteers.

 

[Benfleet A1]

I tend to agree with you Mr B. The big charities do need to clean up their working practices.
Locally I haven't been that impressed by the management/board of the Havens Hospices BUT they have some great staff and volunteers.

I used to work with someone who could leave his handicapped son there for a day so he and his mrs could have some restbite. He used to say that if it wasn't for Havens he would have thrown himself under a bus years ago.

 

[Shrimpers are Magic]

I confidently predict David Miliband will never,ever be elected leader of the Labour party.

I'm off to the bookies.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

I used to work with someone who could leave his handicapped son there for a day so he and his mrs could have some restbite. He used to say that if it wasn't for Havens he would have thrown himself under a bus years ago.

I understand that completely, the staff and volunteers are, as I stated great;
but those at the top don't skimp on their "expenses", wine, £40 a yard carpet, hospitality for dignitaries etc when the money could be, IMO, better spent with the clients and front line stuff.

 

[mrsblue]

You can stick Children in Need and it's associated 'luvvieness' where the sun don't shine. Same goes for all the other big headline charities that bombard our TV's etc with tragic adds fr this that and the other. The ONLY one I ever give to now is H4H and that's the way it will stay.

Now, local charities where you know where the money is actually going. (if you can be bothered to look and find out, which you should if your giving them some of your hard earned) That is where it starts for me and my household.

Yep agree with you regarding those big outfits...money grabbing and jobs for the boys !

Those poxy adverts should be banned...give 3 quid a month ...hold the front page this country hands out 12 billion every year yet those huggers still want £3 pm.

 

[OldBlueLady]

I understand that completely, the staff and volunteers are, as I stated great;
but those at the top don't skimp on their "expenses", wine, £40 a yard carpet, hospitality for dignitaries etc when the money could be, IMO, better spent with the clients and front line stuff.

For that exact reason, there are a number of smaller local charities who have stopped working with them.
As with most charities, it's at the base level that the funding makes the most difference - to the people actually affected.

 

[Benfleet A1]

Yep agree with you regarding those big outfits...money grabbing and jobs for the boys !

Those poxy adverts should be banned...give 3 quid a month ...hold the front page this country hands out 12 billion every year yet those huggers still want £3 pm.

But you don't give to charity remember, so why is it still a problem.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

He will eventually !

Then he will be a full blown socialist spouting rubbish about his concerns for the needy whilst bring loaded himself.

Tony Blair is worth an estimated 30 million....not bad Tone.

why would you make predictions on someone becoming a party leader in the future and then predict what speeches they will make and then declare them a hypocrite for something they haven't said whilst in a job they don't have - other than in your future dream world.

He has no role in the party and doesn't even live in this country.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

But you don't give to charity remember, so why is it still a problem.

can't think of anything else to moan about

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

I used to work with someone who could leave his handicapped son there for a day so he and his mrs could have some restbite. He used to say that if it wasn't for Havens he would have thrown himself under a bus years ago.

This.
No one will disagree that charities should have their spending scrutinised but just like the NHS they do need management and charities will lose staff to private companies if they don't pay a certain level of salary - it's still those people's jobs.

To boycott all charities because some are irresponsible in their spending does a disservice to the great work done by many for many more.

 

[mrsblue]

This.
No one will disagree that charities should have their spending scrutinised but just like the NHS they do need management and charities will lose staff to private companies if they don't pay a certain level of salary - it's still those people's jobs.

To boycott all charities because some are irresponsible in their spending does a disservice to the great work done by many for many more.

No ***,

These charities are out of control and require legislation to cap pay and their spending.

 

[Benfleet A1]

No ***,

These charities are out of control and require legislation to cap pay and their spending.

But you don't give to charity. Why should you care.

 

[mrsblue]

But you don't give to charity. Why should you care.

Why do you care whether I care or not..poo poo.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

No ***,

These charities are out of control and require legislation to cap pay and their spending.

No one will disagree that charities should have their spending scrutinised but just like the NHS they do need management and charities will lose staff to private companies if they don't pay a certain level of salary - it's still those people's jobs.

To boycott all charities because some are irresponsible in their spending does a disservice to the great work done by many for many more.

 

[rigsby]

No one will disagree that charities should have their spending scrutinised but just like the NHS they do need management and charities will lose staff to private companies if they don't pay a certain level of salary - it's still those people's jobs.

To boycott all charities because some are irresponsible in their spending does a disservice to the great work done by many for many more.

Yea right. I bet Alan Sugar would love to sign David Miliband for just £400k a year.

These charities don't know how lucky they are, I mean some one of quality of Miliband who lets face it is virtually working for nothing.

 

[Benfleet A1]

Why do you care whether I care or not..poo poo.

Its a simple question which you have avoided three times. You don't give to charity, so why are you bothered how they operate? None of your money is involved here nor your time or effort so for the fourth time, why is it a problem to you.

Try giving an answer for a change.

 

[mrsblue]

Its a simple question which you have avoided three times. You don't give to charity, so why are you bothered how they operate? None of your money is involved here nor your time or effort so for the fourth time, why is it a problem to you.

Try giving an answer for a change.

If just one person reads this thread and decides not to give their money to the big firms,then great !

Charity is a vocation,I do stuff for free...Xmas eve I spent 5 hours of my time helping to prep veg for 30 pensioners and every 4th week it's my turn to take them shopping(not all 30 though)...no big deal.

 

[Another Surrey Shrimper]

Yea right. I bet Alan Sugar would love to sign David Miliband for just £400k a year.

These charities don't know how lucky they are, I mean some one of quality of Miliband who lets face it is virtually working for nothing.

if Alan Sugar wants him then he may as well put in an offer - he has no future in the Labour Party so I suspect is open to offers

 

[Bielzibubz]

Its a simple question which you have avoided three times. You don't give to charity, so why are you bothered how they operate? None of your money is involved here nor your time or effort so for the fourth time, why is it a problem to you.

Try giving an answer for a change.

I don't give to big charities but it annoys the hell out of me that their books could and should be scrutinized more. It bugs me that some could quite easily run and operate from much less palatial and expensive surroundings and it sure as hell annoys me that much more money could be given to worthy causes if 'some' didn't operate as they do from where they do.

The fact I don't give to these charities doesn't negate the fact that I have an opinion on them and that I can and will voice that opinion.

I don't give to any unions either so does that mean I shouldn't have an opinion or care as to how much of an over inflated salary they pay some of their heads?