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**** sake.

Back on topic please.

I'll try. I buy a newspaper every weekday but Michael Atherton, Alan Lee and Oliver Kay haven't yet had much influence on how I vote.
 
Does anyone even buy a newspaper anymore to be brainwashed by?

Arguably people buy newspapers that confirm their view of things so the brainwashing must have already taken place.
If I buy a paper I usually go for the Times. It has an obvious bias to the right in its leader columns but does have political columnists from both left and right.
On the down side, The Times does increasingly seem to have a guilt complex about having the same publisher as The Sun. This manifests itself in printing as many pictures of blokes with no shirts on as it can and requiring its male columnists to regularly proclaim that they are feminists. Unfortunately ,their definition of a male feminist often amounts to little more than a bizarre mix of loathing their own gender whilst simultaneously announcing their secret male crushes!
 
Arguably people buy newspapers that confirm their view of things so the brainwashing must have already taken place.

Very true. In my dim and distant past I used to buy the Mirror as my old man would read it and he was an odd mixture of hard line socialist and outright racist (apart from Ian Wright who was a black gentleman, him being a Gooner). I moved onto The Guardian in my mid 20's, much to the distain of my workmates who'd read anything with boobs in, from the Sun to Razzle (of course I never took a sneaky peek.....:whistling:)
 
**** sake.

Back on topic please.

I'll try. I buy a newspaper every weekday but Michael Atherton, Alan Lee and Oliver Kay haven't yet had much influence on how I vote.

I seem to recall that there's actually quite a lot of research evidence which suggest that readers just "shut out" any political view in the paper they read which is different from their own political viewpoint.
 
The BBC are so right wing now it is ridiculous.(waits for those that say it is left).Check who runs them and is in charge of the editorial. Nick Robinson the political editor for one. .

You only have to look at the comedians the BBC employs (Charlie Brooker, Russell Howard, Stewart Lee etc.) to see what a metropolitan 'liberal' leftie organisation it is. And it seems like you have to be young/female/non-white or ideally a combination of all three to get a job as a presenter on there these days.
 
You only have to look at the comedians the BBC employs (Charlie Brooker, Russell Howard, Stewart Lee etc.) to see what a metropolitan 'liberal' leftie organisation it is. And it seems like you have to be young/female/non-white or ideally a combination of all three to get a job as a presenter on there these days.

Really? Whilst they doff their caps to the Royals? Left wing my arse.
 
I seem to recall that there's actually quite a lot of research evidence which suggest that readers just "shut out" any political view in the paper they read which is different from their own political viewpoint.

They're all sports writers you wally.

In terms of the front of the paper, The Times does have some interesting juxtapositions, e.g. Philip Collins who used to write speeches for Labour and Danny Finkelstein who ran campaigns (terribly unsuccessfully) for the Conservatives.
 
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You only have to look at the comedians the BBC employs (Charlie Brooker, Russell Howard, Stewart Lee etc.) to see what a metropolitan 'liberal' leftie organisation it is. And it seems like you have to be young/female/non-white or ideally a combination of all three to get a job as a presenter on there these days.

It's good to see some satire on SZ.

Whilst the 47 year old Lee isn't particularly down with the kids, I still think he'd have appreciated it.
 
They're all sports writers you wally.

In terms of the front of the paper, The Times does have some interesting juxtapositions, e.g. Philip Collins who used to write speeches for Labour and Danny Finkelstein who ran campaigns (terribly unsuccessfully) for the Conservatives.

I notice Jeremy Clarkson didn't have a column in the ST last weekend.Hopefully he's got the chop from them too.

I quite like DF on his Newsnight appearances.Ditto Philip Collins who's often on The Daily Politcs too.
 
Very true. In my dim and distant past I used to buy the Mirror as my old man would read it and he was an odd mixture of hard line socialist and outright racist (apart from Ian Wright who was a black gentleman, him being a Gooner). I moved onto The Guardian in my mid 20's, much to the distain of my workmates who'd read anything with boobs in, from the Sun to Razzle (of course I never took a sneaky peek.....:whistling:)

I know at least one tit who reads the Guardian.
 
the a Guardian/Observer are owned by a Cayman Islands trust that exists solely to avoid UK taxes.

I've often seen reference on the Zone to overseas ownership of The Guardian but have never been able to independently verify it. I thought that they were owned by the Scott Trust. Is that not so? Can someone provide some evidence to me please? Thanks.
 
I've often seen reference on the Zone to overseas ownership of The Guardian but have never been able to independently verify it. I thought that they were owned by the Scott Trust. Is that not so? Can someone provide some evidence to me please? Thanks.

It is.The Scott Trust is now a limited company,which as Neil F says is registered overseas for tax purposes.



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