Tony Colbert

[rigsby]

the problem he's going to have is that pre-season is gone so it will be difficult to build the fitness up quickly. someone like Dieng could really benefit from this and become the player we need him to be, now if only there was someone who could teach Humphreys to pass.......

Yes your right but with Dieng its more than fitness. Watch him today and see how many times he 'nearly' gets there. Not sure what is the more difficult job, getting Humphreys to pass or Dieng to tackle.

If we managed both then we would survive because Hutch and Hamilton would be the ideal players to exploit the space in between those two.......A good squad, were all in this together, fitness regime and a lift in team spirit will go along way in making that happen.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

I can hear the hamstrings twanging from here . Probably never see Hyam again.

Alternatively the opposite may be true,. The hamstring, or calf pulls are prone to show stress(s) that are passed down core and other muscles to a major breaking point. By TC strengthening the core and whole muscle set up the major problem areas will be made stronger.
Players with continual hamstring issues ought to have figured it out.

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

What interests me is whether players know or think they are fit?
After all, it's their living. Maybe, they delude themselves. I can only compare to what it took me to run 2:34:07 in the London Marathon.
I knew that unless I tortured myself during endurance runs and shorter quick efforts, I was never going to make it.
Wouldn't you as a player test yourself and your own stats to improve?
If the answer is 'no, I'll try and get away with it' - they should be escorted to the door.
It's not going to happen, but wouldn't you like a glance at Colbert's check list as he puts our lot through their paces?

 

[fbm]

What interests me is whether players know or think they are fit?
After all, it's their living. Maybe, they delude themselves. I can only compare to what it took me to run 2:34:07 in the London Marathon.
I knew that unless I tortured myself during endurance runs and shorter quick efforts, I was never going to make it.
Wouldn't you as a player test yourself and your own stats to improve?
If the answer is 'no, I'll try and get away with it' - they should be escorted to the door.
It's not going to happen, but wouldn't you like a glance at Colbert's check list as he puts our lot through their paces?

What you need to remember is that many up and coming players at this level think they have made it and the ones on the way down in their careers are easing up. It's probably different at top and international level but essentially players want to get away with anything. The team have started doing Yoga this year (my wife is the teacher) and not all of them take it seriously, they go through the motions. Yet this will absolutely develop core strength and balance and you would think help them.

But they absolutely do want to "get away with it".

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

What you need to remember is that many up and coming players at this level think they have made it and the ones on the way down in their careers are easing up. It's probably different at top and international level but essentially players want to get away with anything. The team have started doing Yoga this year (my wife is the teacher) and not all of them take it seriously, they go through the motions. Yet this will absolutely develop core strength and balance and you would think help them.

But they absolutely do want to "get away with it".

Agree 100%.
Have used all kinds of everything to improve: yoga and pilates. In fact, go to a class when I have the time.
But the telling point made is the one highlighted. You might have thought it would cross minds how they got there?
Perhaps this strays into confidentiality, but do any of the management ask your wife about players' performance in her classes?

 

[rigsby]

What you need to remember is that many up and coming players at this level think they have made it and the ones on the way down in their careers are easing up. It's probably different at top and international level but essentially players want to get away with anything. The team have started doing Yoga this year (my wife is the teacher) and not all of them take it seriously, they go through the motions. Yet this will absolutely develop core strength and balance and you would think help them.

But they absolutely do want to "get away with it".

Was completely different when PB did yoga classes with his team. The teachers were pleasantly surprised how professional they were. The only one who showed them some tude, was put in his place the next day, in front of the others and quickly moved on in the summer.

From what I have already heard (all good) Sol will be exactly the same

 

[Tombstone Blues]

The team have started doing Yoga this year (my wife is the teacher) and not all of them take it seriously, they go through the motions. Yet this will absolutely develop core strength and balance and you would think help them.

But they absolutely do want to "get away with it".

Cor go on FBM......name some names.....

 

[WESTY_SUFC]

Cor go on FBM......name some names.....

Cox by any chance?

 

[Kris]

I believe it was Anthony Straker.

 

[fbm]

Cor go on FBM......name some names.....

No, I wouldn't do that!

But there is always someone from the club there, they know what goes on.

In the interests of balance, there are many who are very, very interested and can see the benefit. It's enjoyable and by and large it's a good service which I think the club benefits from. The players are always respectful (especially the younger ones) and overall it's a positive experience.

But listen, re the fitness generally... these players are fit, they're just not as fit as they could be and they don't work anywhere near as hard as they should. When I say work hard, I don't mean run around like mad following the ball like an U8's player, which we've seen plenty of so far. I mean work hard by communicating to their team mates, having the discipline to hold positions and pick up runners, press as a group, not just leave one man to do it and generally work AS A TEAM and not just 11 individuals. There is no responsibility being taken with lots of waving and pointing, pretend challenges that feign interest and going through the motions.

This lot have easily got another 10-15% in them to give and that's before the right structure and tactics are put in place.

The work rate today will be interesting.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

Cox by any chance?

Why do you, and others think that about Cox? For sure he shows the ache with things ot being done to his ideas BUT generally he has called those things right imo. Others certainly have poor attitude and team ethos however Cox, from what I have witnessed is only "guilty " of being so clearly unenamoured by silliness.

 

[WESTY_SUFC]

Why do you, and others think that about Cox? For sure he shows the ache with things ot being done to his ideas BUT generally he has called those things right imo. Others certainly have poor attitude and team ethos however Cox, from what I have witnessed is only "guilty " of being so clearly unenamoured by silliness.

The man is overweight. His gut sticks out of his shirt. He isn't in the condition a professional footballer should be. It's appalling in my opinion.

 

[Andy_S]

The man is overweight. His gut sticks out of his shirt. He isn't in the condition a professional footballer should be. It's appalling in my opinion.

You clearly don’t follow him on Instagram.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

The man is overweight. His gut sticks out of his shirt. He isn't in the condition a professional footballer should be. It's appalling in my opinion.

Nonsense, he is stocky but he is not fat. I have seen him in gym changing rooms at David Lloyd and he does not have a gut protruding.
Where is the answer to the attitude question.?

 

[Ayrshire Blue]

This was a very shrewd move. A good fitness coach is worth their weight in gold

Obviously you wanna raise general fitness and prevent future injuries. But recovery times on some “little niggles” we’ve had in the past year and a half has been far too long and we need to get to the bottom of it

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

This was a very shrewd move. A good fitness coach is worth their weight in gold

Obviously you wanna raise general fitness and prevent future injuries. But recovery times on some “little niggles” we’ve had in the past year and a half has been far too long and we need to get to the bottom of it

Very very true, this bloke will have his "finger on the pulse" , up close and personal, and will get to know much more about what is happening in that most important of muscles; the brain, of the players.

 

[davewebbsbrain]

Nonsense, he is stocky but he is not fat. I have seen him in gym changing rooms at David Lloyd and he does not have a gut protruding.
Where is the answer to the attitude question.?

He filled in the hole behind the front two yesterday and his work rate was phenomenal. Back in defence to up top plenty of times. Did a great job yesterday and anyone that thinks he is overweight or isn't putting a shift in needs their head read

 

[Moley]

He filled in the hole behind the front two yesterday and his work rate was phenomenal. Back in defence to up top plenty of times. Did a great job yesterday and anyone that thinks he is overweight or isn't putting a shift in needs their head read

Also let’s not forget Cox never had a pre season and was bizarrely thrown into the starting 11 at Coventry away. Hopefully with the guidance under TC we’ll see a change in Coxy over the next few weeks.

 

[rigsby]

Nonsense, he is stocky but he is not fat. I have seen him in gym changing rooms at David Lloyd and he does not have a gut protruding.
Where is the answer to the attitude question.?

I may not speak for all but most of us men don't like things to protrude in the changing room........especially Cox.

 

[londonblue]

What interests me is whether players know or think they are fit?
After all, it's their living. Maybe, they delude themselves. I can only compare to what it took me to run 2:34:07 in the London Marathon.
I knew that unless I tortured myself during endurance runs and shorter quick efforts, I was never going to make it.
Wouldn't you as a player test yourself and your own stats to improve?
If the answer is 'no, I'll try and get away with it' - they should be escorted to the door.
It's not going to happen, but wouldn't you like a glance at Colbert's check list as he puts our lot through their paces?

I would imagine that all players have access to their stats and know how their fitness compares to previous tests. But it might also be that they're continually playing catch up because of niggling injuries that have stopped them training at full tilt.

If you take time out from training for illness or injury you have to work extremely hard to get back to the levels you were previously at, and it takes time, If you get another injury along the way, then it takes even longer. Some players will be in that cycle, and until they're injury free they won't get back to full fitness.

Even then they'll need to improve their fitness. It is going to take at least a couple of months, maybe longer before the team themselves start to see any results.