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Unemployment rises again

Cricko

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I watched Newsnight last evening about the young and how not only can they not get a job but are being used by the systems in place...1. Being interns and many not getting paid at all and 2. Doing a 30 day job trial with a company who pay them nothing and then the company just gets rid of them and advertises the job again..Ok they may gain some experience, but isn't this back to the days of slave labour?
 
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Agreed cicko it is slave labour for some but my daughter did a intirnship over the summer for a city firm and was paid 1500 a month and now she is back at uni she has had her interview and been offered a contract at 18.500 a year so they are not all bad.
 

MK Shrimper

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Agreed cicko it is slave labour for some but my daughter did a intirnship over the summer for a city firm and was paid 1500 a month and now she is back at uni she has had her interview and been offered a contract at 18.500 a year so they are not all bad.

But that's La Francais c'est non?
 
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Nice to see the government are sorting things and we are on the way back.:sad:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15747103

I'd say it's very hard to place all of the blame on the current government. Unemployment has risen steadily in recent years, but when unemployment rises under Labour it's never a problem. It only appears to be an issue when those nasty Tories are in power.

Youth unemployment (18-24) is incredibly and unacceptably high, and I truly feel for youngsters today trying to get a job. Something my generation took for granted, most walked out of school straight into work, whether they'd been in further education or not.
 

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I am not blaming the government for the amount of unemployed H,just the way they are going about solving it. The cuts they are making across the board are ridiculous and noway in a zillion years will this encourage future employment for those youngsters.
 

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I'd say it's very hard to place all of the blame on the current government. Unemployment has risen steadily in recent years, but when unemployment rises under Labour it's never a problem. It only appears to be an issue when those nasty Tories are in power.

Youth unemployment (18-24) is incredibly and unacceptably high, and I truly feel for youngsters today trying to get a job. Something my generation took for granted, most walked out of school straight into work, whether they'd been in further education or not.

This was a point made in the Newsnight programme which Cricko originally referred to.
 

Cricko

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1. While the government keeps extending the ladder at the top so nobody falls off, how on earth is anybody meant to get on it.
 

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What doesnt help is the fact so many kids are so god dam lazy and dont want to go out and find a job or even work and just expect the parent to pay for everything!

When I was selfunenployed I was sent on a cause at the Uni and I was put in the wrong one with kids under 25 and none of them wanted to be there or had any drive to work which helped me asx they had more time to help me tinker things on my C.V etc
 

Perth Bambi

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I saw a programme last night and a guy had a job at tesco but quit because he wanted to get into music. He now has no job. I propose it is his fault he is unemployed and no one else's.
 

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Interesting comments, I can only speak from my own experiences and I would absolutely agree that anyone joining the job hunting market at the lower end is really someone to feel sorry for at the moment. As Cricko says, they keep making people stay at work longer so there's not the turnover in companies anymore even supermarkets and McDonalds are being incredibly picky on their selection processes.

My son was 19 in May, has applied for umpteen jobs and had a few interviews but because he didn't do very well at school doesn't meet the academic levels required in many places. He's got a 2 night a week job in a fish and chip shop earning just under £60 a week - on the days he does all the hours and they don't mess his pay up or dispute his hours. That takes him over the threshold for Job Seekers Allowance by £6 a week, which means that he now gets no help with medical costs (free prescriptions or dental treatment) or with finding jobs and also doesn't get his stamp paid (which I'm told he would if on JSA). He'd be better off not working and getting the support from the Jobcentre.

He's fed up and disillusioned, feels let down by a system that failed him badly in school and college and has little motivation. I'm at a loss to know what to suggest....he's applied for night shifts in the supermarkets and plenty of other seasonal work and still nothing. It's a tough world.
 

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One of our problems is our ridiculous political system which has entrenched the power of two equally hapless groups of idiots. As I've stated in previous threads our politicians and media are still fighting a ridiculous capitalism v socialism battle that has been out of date for 25 years. I'm incredibly depressed by British politics at the moment, who can have any faith that either party will have the flexibility to challenge the special interests and ideological dogma that they are chained to. How bad will it have get before they realise that a different approach is necessary?
 

Reg Martin

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One of our problems is our ridiculous political system which has entrenched the power of two equally hapless groups of idiots. As I've stated in previous threads our politicians and media are still fighting a ridiculous capitalism v socialism battle that has been out of date for 25 years. I'm incredibly depressed by British politics at the moment, who can have any faith that either party will have the flexibility to challenge the special interests and ideological dogma that they are chained to. How bad will it have get before they realise that a different approach is necessary?

Looking around the world, the different approach that seems to have most success (admittedly with some major flaws) eg India, China, Brazil, is a form of capitalism that is far more free-market than many of us brought up in Western European social democracies probably feel comfortable with.
Those of us of a certain generation born between maybe 1945 and 1970 may turn to have been very fortunate as we benefited from a level of state support in many areas of our life that now seems to be unsustainable in the long run. Those in the generation born between 1990 and 2000 are now paying the price for a painful end to that system.
 
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