Interpol Shrimper
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i.e. it's only ignorance that scares us.
Probably also relates to me & my mate getting a kicking off a bunch of Yardies in the car park of Roehampton Institute student union and spending 6 hours in A&E!
i.e. it's only ignorance that scares us.
i.e. it's only ignorance that scares us.
Stepps isn't exactly a barrel of laughs mind.
And the men with knives
These 2 seem to be running away with the title of the SZ sponsored Cr@ppest Town in Britain!
Woah... as a SE London resident, I'll have to beg to differ!
* 90% is way over the mark. I'll not quibble with the fact that parts of SE London are absolute sh*tholes. Those that jump to mind include Belvedere, Erith, Thamesmead, Welling, Kidbrooke, New Cross, Bermondsey, Peckham, Catford, Nunhead, most of Deptford, most of Surrey Quays, parts of Woolwich, parts of Plumstead, parts of Lewisham...
Hmm. I make that about 70%.
:eek: :minger: :hilarious:
Seriously, though, there are some nice bits of SE London - Greenwich, Blackheath, Dulwich, Brockley, Honor Oak, Crystal Palace, Herne Hill... and Forest Hill. It's obviously a while since you've been there, Bigshrimp - but places like the Horniman Museum and the advent of the East London Line extension mean that Forest Hill has really come up in the world in the last few years. If it weren't for the fact that Forest Hill is reknowned for being the subsidence capital of SE London, property prices would have rocketed in that area.
As with almost all of London, whether somewhere is nice or not changes rapidly - both in distance and time. You can go from a nice street to a skeggy street in the matter of a few yards, while a crap area can become very pleasant in the space of just a few years. My sister used to live in Clapham in 1990, and it was rough and dangerous. Now, you can't move for BMWs and yummy mummies.
Basically, don't write SE London off entirely. It has some bloody rough bits - I was shocked at some of the sink estates around Belvedere in particular, when I last went there I thought I'd been teleported to Bucharest c. 1970 - but it's not all bad.
Matt
You obviously haven't lived on the Craylands estate. Or Felmores. Or Chalvedon. Or Five Links. Or (insert any Basildon conurbation here).
Having lived in Bas for about 35 years I actually love the town to bits - which is just as well because each weekend it gets smashed to pieces.
Stepps isn't exactly a barrel of laughs mind. North Shields isn't a beauty spot either.
Ooh, I shall have to look out for that one.incidentally, there may be attempts ongoing to make New X trendy again- the Amersham Arms pub has been bought by the owners of the Lock Tavern in Camden and is re-opening as a posh pub/300 capacity gig venue.
Woah... as a SE London resident, I'll have to beg to differ!
* 90% is way over the mark. I'll not quibble with the fact that parts of SE London are absolute sh*tholes. Those that jump to mind include Belvedere, Erith, Thamesmead, Welling, Kidbrooke, New Cross, Bermondsey, Peckham, Catford, Nunhead, most of Deptford, most of Surrey Quays, parts of Woolwich, parts of Plumstead, parts of Lewisham...
Hmm. I make that about 70%.
:eek: :minger: :hilarious:
Seriously, though, there are some nice bits of SE London - Greenwich, Blackheath, Dulwich, Brockley, Honor Oak, Crystal Palace, Herne Hill... and Forest Hill. It's obviously a while since you've been there, Bigshrimp - but places like the Horniman Museum and the advent of the East London Line extension mean that Forest Hill has really come up in the world in the last few years. If it weren't for the fact that Forest Hill is reknowned for being the subsidence capital of SE London, property prices would have rocketed in that area.
As with almost all of London, whether somewhere is nice or not changes rapidly - both in distance and time. You can go from a nice street to a skeggy street in the matter of a few yards, while a crap area can become very pleasant in the space of just a few years. My sister used to live in Clapham in 1990, and it was rough and dangerous. Now, you can't move for BMWs and yummy mummies.
Basically, don't write SE London off entirely. It has some bloody rough bits - I was shocked at some of the sink estates around Belvedere in particular, when I last went there I thought I'd been teleported to Bucharest c. 1970 - but it's not all bad.
Matt
Purely from personal experience my least three favourite places would have to be:
Mansfield
Another good call. A very depressing sh!thole of a place.
Purely from personal experience my least three favourite places would have to be:
Mansfield
Jumping on the Mansfield bandwagon, and without coming all over TMWLT (Newman, 1993), I believe it is the largest town in Britain without a railway station.
Jumping on the Mansfield bandwagon, and without coming all over TMWLT
Can't cycle to work from Southend!Anyway, why live so far away from your beloved Southend?! ;)
Can't cycle to work from Southend!
:p
Thankfully, the only real experience of Basildump I have is of the town centre and the area one of my mates lived in (can't remember the road name, although to get there you had to turn left opposite Staples) and they're not TOO bad...!