Should they weigh people before flying

[Davros]

Now, i know we have had this discussion before, but last time..

a) We didnt do a poll

b) Trueblue threatened to beat people up

c) i didnt realise that when the first passenger airport opened in Croyden many years ago, they did actually weigh the passengers as well as the baggage, and if the combined weight was to much, you were politely asked to leave some luggae behind.


I am a firm believer that this would be a fair policy, and that if it wasnt for people being so PC these days, would be something that could actually save the airline industry without having to resort to crazy method slike removing seats and charging for a wee... and would perhaps benefit the health of people who might take up a healthier lifestyle so they can fly for less.

 

[McNasty]

Rubbish, make skinny people swim the oceans and cycle to their destinations and leave the planes to us fat blokes. Less people on the planes and the airline companies can remove some seats and let us lardies travel in big seats in style.
Go away skinny man.

 

[Pubey]

if they are going to insist that luggage charges are based on weight, then they should weigh hand luggage and the passenger as well. my real problem is when a really really large person is squeezed into the tiny seat next to you and completely crushes you. I think that people of a certain size (not just fat but enormous) should have to pay for extra seats

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

I would be interested to understand your fairer stance, what would weighing passengers do to provide a fairer system?

Maybe we should get rid of baggage allowance and charge per kilo and maybe we could do the same for passengers and that way I would not have to pay the same as you who is so much heavier than either Archie or Lucy? As I do at the moment.

And do you really think the money grabbing airlines that are charging to use the loo would give that up. Of course not they are after profit from everything they can eek money on.

 

[Davros]

I would be interested to understand your fairer stance, what would weighing passengers do to provide a fairer system?

Maybe we should get rid of baggage allowance and charge per kilo and maybe we could do the same for passengers and that way I would not have to pay the same as you who is so much heavier than either Archie or Lucy? As I do at the moment.

And do you really think the money grabbing airlines that are charging to use the loo would give that up. Of course not they are after profit from everything they can eek money on.

The fairest system of all

 

[please delete my account]

Morning Chaps!

In my considered and expert opinion, all fat people should be banned from using transport of any kind. These lardy bloaters take up too much space and are far too sweaty. Sitting near these people whilst they work their way through several kilos of pie, although stangely fascinating, is pretty disgusting.

I would adapt the metal detectors at airports to sound an alarm if a fatty walks through. A voice loudly stating 'Fat **** detected, please escort this dollop from the premises' should accompany the alarm.

When I am in power, I'll also expand this scheme to stop slapheads, gingers, ugly bleeders and birds with small tits from accessing these facilities.

Kind Regards

 

[dloman]

Also should they also weigh everything that is bought and at the shops airside, as you could easily carry through another 20kg worth.

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

You still have not told me why it is fairer?

Do you really think this policy would reduce your costs? Or that the airline would use it to increase profits?

What about pregnant women or even disabled people who do not have the ability to get down to the gym and lead rather sedantry lives through no fault of their own. should these people be penalised. and what do you do about wheelchairs and other equipment people need to live should the be charged per kilo for this as well?? I do feel you view is rather narrow and not looking really at the bigger picture.

 

[Davros]

You still have not told me why it is fairer?

Do you really think this policy would reduce your costs? Or that the airline would use it to increase profits?

What about pregnant women or even disabled people who do not have the ability to get down to the gym and lead rather sedantry lives through no fault of their own. should these people be penalised. and what do you do about wheelchairs and other equipment people need to live should the be charged per kilo for this as well?? I do feel you view is rather narrow and not looking really at the bigger picture.

I think it would be fairer to charge as you say, per kilo for luggage and person combined. Im not sure if it would reduce costs, but it would certainly work out to be more fair, and as you point out, those with children, who weigh less than an adult, and who would more than likely take less luggage than an adult would not cost as much, which is a fair system

Perhaps some exceptions could be worked into the equation for disabled or pregnant people, or those who have medical conditions that make it hard to lose weight.

Im not saying it would be a perfect system, but then is any system perfect?

Would the airlines try and use it to make profit... probably, like they do with everything else.

 

[scrounger]

Interesting topic.

One question I do have, if you do adopt this sentiment for "fat" people; "tall" people will then request extra leg room for example as part of their journey.

Would you consider this charge to occur if the person cannot fit in the seat? Maybe have a tester seat at the airport (similar to theme parks) and if they hang over the seat, the extra charge is incurred.

The issue is, it would be highly embarrassing (more so than they feel already) if this was ever implemented.

 

[Bob Cratchitt]

Interesting topic.

One question I do have, if you do adopt this sentiment for "fat" people; "tall" people will then request extra leg room for example as part of their journey.

Would you consider this charge to occur if the person cannot fit in the seat? Maybe have a tester seat at the airport (similar to theme parks) and if they hang over the seat, the extra charge is incurred.

The issue is, it would be highly embarrassing (more so than they feel already) if this was ever implemented.

They do have this, and when someone is clearly large, they are asked to go with a member of staff to see how they fit in the tester seat. It is used more in the US but will be appearing more in Europe, as the national weight average increases.

 

[number11]

Interesting topic.

One question I do have, if you do adopt this sentiment for "fat" people; "tall" people will then request extra leg room for example as part of their journey.

Would you consider this charge to occur if the person cannot fit in the seat? Maybe have a tester seat at the airport (similar to theme parks) and if they hang over the seat, the extra charge is incurred.

The issue is, it would be highly embarrassing (more so than they feel already) if this was ever implemented.

this is a bit :offtopic: but,

Whilst in my former career at Peter Pan's Adventure Island I had to ask a 'larger lady' to leave the spinning turtle ride as she was too large to fit the safety belt on. She, quite astutely pointed out that she was well and truly wedged into the seat, but rules were rules and she had to endure a walk of shame past the rest of the people waiting for the ride to start.

What is the rationale behind the weight of luggage issue. I'm guessing its to ensure the baggage handlers are not lugging too heavy a weight around rather than the extra weight affecting the plane taking off or something? In which case, whilst I have suffered extra baggage charges before, Im not sure the extra weight issue would be relevent.

Easiest solution is to wear all your clothes on the plane. It may make you look like you have come to the airport via the sunshine bus, but it will increase you weight and keep your luggage weight down....

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

I find it remarkable that people will gladly discriminate against the overweight whose presence on the flight may cause them some minor inconvenience, but are appalled at the thought of any discriminatory profiling at security gates which is aimed at preventing them from suffering the major inconvenience of having their plane flown into a tall building.

 

[londonblue]

The reason people aren't weighed at present is because the airlines use an average. In the past this has caused accidents. There was one accident in the US where an aeroplane crashed because it was overweight. The reason was the average weight being used was out of date. This has now been updated and is remarkably accurate.

However, it would make sense (if it were practical) to weigh everybody so that the pilot has an exact figure for his weights and balances. However, for that to be worthwhile I would imagine they would need to weigh take on luggage and anything bought in duty free.

My personal opinion is that it isn't necessary to weigh people, but a rule about waist size to seat size might be worthwhile.

 

[Holy Joe]

You still have not told me why it is fairer?

I do feel you view is rather narrow and not looking really at the bigger picture.

Isn't this whole thread about the bigger picture?

 

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Make all fat people live on an Island together and dont allow them of it!!

 

[Rob Noxious]

Weighing of the passengers on the 'Isles of Scilly Skybus' takes place at Land's End Airport. The Skybus accommodates 6 passengers and sets off from a little runway on the edge of a cliff. Good, clean fun...but not for the squeamish!

 

[davewebbsbrain]

Why should I pay £235 each way on top for my golf clubs when the fat sod next to me weighs more than me and my clubs together.

Went to Scotland for a weekend to play golf, didn't have a suitcase, but had golf clubs. Suitcase comes within your 15kg limit but golf clubs don't even though they are bagged up and weigh the same as a suitcase...Fat people and airlines...both very wrong!

 

[Yer Blues]

i think people with garish tattoos on their shoulders who then post them on the internet should be made to pay extra too.

 

[davewebbsbrain]

i think people with garish tattoos on their shoulders who then post them on the internet should be made to pay extra too.

Nice to have you back Bobby. I hope you enjoyed your holiday.

I tend to agree with you in principle, but when it is a tattoo of the best team in the world, I can see no problem with it. I also think that people who start a sentence with a small letter and not a capital letter should be made to pay also.