Which pulled tens of thousands of punters into the town.View attachment 24986
The council too busy building their own tacky monstrosity down the high street.
I thought it was really good.Which pulled tens of thousands of punters into the town.
We have submitted detailed plans for the revisions - theres 14 pages with 10 documents on each page on the council website!
Having been through the planning process before on a residential build, I'd suggest it's not the same for everyone. Really depends on who you know as to how fast and how flexible the council can be.
I think this has even been classed as a delegated decision, councillors probably won't even vote on it!
The council hasn't disclosed what further info they require - that'd be interesting to know.
With the hotel chain conveniently dropping out just after planning for the new stadium was granted, I understand his reasoning for wanting to change the planning permission to make it self funding. However in seeking this change he has materially altered the main stand by reducing the stadium capacity by over 4,000 seats, so our capacity is less than 17,000. This is unacceptable. If he has lost the finance from a hotel chain, then replace it with an individual/consortium who will invest the money needed to complete the stadium as passed. There will hotel chains that would be interested in running the hotel on a leased basis rather than providing the finance to build it. It all comes down to Ron accepting that he needs a new investor/consortium to fund the club/new stadium. In return they will want control of the club and stadium, but they will make sure he walks off into the sunset a rich man. For goodness sake Ron swallow your pride, be less greedy and do what is in the club’s interests for once.In fairness to Ron, this time I think it's because the hotel chain pulled out. Without them there was no funding for the main stand. He hasn't got the money to fund it himself so instead he's added residential units that will pay for the stand. That, unfortunately, has led to a reduction in capacity.
If only we had a chairman that could actually afford to build the stadium.
With the hotel chain conveniently dropping out just after planning for the new stadium was granted, I understand his reasoning for wanting to change the planning permission to make it self funding. However in seeking this change he has materially altered the main stand by reducing the stadium capacity by over 4,000 seats, so our capacity is less than 17,000. This is unacceptable. If he has lost the finance from a hotel chain, then replace it with an individual/consortium who will invest the money needed to complete the stadium as passed. There will hotel chains that would be interested in running the hotel on a leased basis rather than providing the finance to build it. It all comes down to Ron accepting that he needs a new investor/consortium to fund the club/new stadium. In return they will want control of the club and stadium, but they will make sure he walks off into the sunset a rich man. For goodness sake Ron swallow your pride, be less greedy and do what is in the club’s interests for once.
It’s not you all us supporters have to dream things up at the moment with our clown chairmanI thought I had read somewhere that either Ron or Tom had said that the tenders for the Stadium were due due on 28th January or had I just dreamed this up?
Any one heard anything?
If you read my post it suggests we should go ahead with a hotel but fund it from new owners that actually have the money and then lease it to a hotel chain. However it does mean Ron will need to speak to individuals/consortium who want to be involved rather than everything being changed to what he can afford. With the right owner/consortium we can really go places and would need a 21,000 capacity stadium with our catchment area.5/6000 in a 16000 capacity will be far better than a 21,000.
With no hotel the plans would have to change anyway.....Mythical small percentage consortiums or not
Makes sense to me. It would be a bit of a risk though, if you don't get anyone to lease the hotel...With the hotel chain conveniently dropping out just after planning for the new stadium was granted, I understand his reasoning for wanting to change the planning permission to make it self funding. However in seeking this change he has materially altered the main stand by reducing the stadium capacity by over 4,000 seats, so our capacity is less than 17,000. This is unacceptable. If he has lost the finance from a hotel chain, then replace it with an individual/consortium who will invest the money needed to complete the stadium as passed. There will hotel chains that would be interested in running the hotel on a leased basis rather than providing the finance to build it. It all comes down to Ron accepting that he needs a new investor/consortium to fund the club/new stadium. In return they will want control of the club and stadium, but they will make sure he walks off into the sunset a rich man. For goodness sake Ron swallow your pride, be less greedy and do what is in the club’s interests for once.
27th Jan has been mentioned before for tender.I thought I had read somewhere that either Ron or Tom had said that the tenders for the Stadium were due due on 28th January or had I just dreamed this up?
Any one heard anything?
If you read my post it suggests we should go ahead with a hotel but fund it from new owners that actually have the money and then lease it to a hotel chain. However it does mean Ron will need to speak to individuals/consortium who want to be involved rather than everything being changed to what he can afford. With the right owner/consortium we can really go places and would need a 21,000 capacity stadium with our catchment area.
At this precise moment in time IMHO Ron would struggle to have a garden shed built if they asked for the money up front.
At this rate we end up with just a park bench to sit on to watchusAFC Southend play ;-)
The never ending shrinking stadium
Why would we ‘need’ a 21,000 capacity stadium when at best we will be top half L1/bottom half Championship? Brentford are in the Premier League and only built a 17,000 capacity stadium.If you read my post it suggests we should go ahead with a hotel but fund it from new owners that actually have the money and then lease it to a hotel chain. However it does mean Ron will need to speak to individuals/consortium who want to be involved rather than everything being changed to what he can afford. With the right owner/consortium we can really go places and would need a 21,000 capacity stadium with our catchment area.
At this precise moment in time IMHO Ron would struggle to have a garden shed built if they asked for the money up front.
I do agree with this, but its the principle that he's not done it because it makes more sense, he's done it to build more housing and make more money, and put the whole future of the club on the line to make a few quid more.5/6000 in a 16000 capacity will be far better than a 21,000.
With no hotel the plans would have to change anyway.....Mythical small percentage consortiums or not
I do agree with this, but its the principle that he's not done it because it makes more sense, he's done it to build more housing and make more money, and put the whole future of the club on the line to make a few quid more.
Erm, have you seen the location of their stadium? Might give you a clue why it holds only 17,000…Why would we ‘need’ a 21,000 capacity stadium when at best we will be top half L1/bottom half Championship? Brentford are in the Premier League and only built a 17,000 capacity stadium.
I think it depends on who owns the club. For the last 35 odd years we have had 3 successive property developers who all bought the club for the development potential of the assets and in the last two cases a move to a new stadium. We have been dreadfully unlucky. In comparison Brentford, Bournemouth, Brighton, Reading to name a few in the south have had owners that have put the advancement of the club first before their own interests. If we were fortunate enough post Ron to attract the right owners I would hope we would have the potential of those clubs mentioned above.Why would we ‘need’ a 21,000 capacity stadium when at best we will be top half L1/bottom half Championship? Brentford are in the Premier League and only built a 17,000 capacity stadium.