Video evidence of our quiet fans!

[Onion_Bag_Dave]

That's not the point that's being made at all. The point is that by filming them sitting down, and you seem to think that it's hilarious, you're not actually achieving anything apart from alienating those that may not particularly feel like chanting or singing. If you genuinely want to improve the atmosphere, then you should be looking to involve other supporters, not mock and humiliate them.

I try to involve other fans, it might make people sing up, Paul Sturrock saying that the crowd is one ofthe quietest he's managed has got other parts of the ground singing! Why wouldn't this work!? Paul's comments improved the atmosphere! Things like this effect people in different ways, if it gets five others singing it's working isn't it?
I apologise if you are offended by this light hearted video, that's not the point of it!

 

[Kenny]

maybe the old boys around you should get involved in a few verses of "Paul Sturrock, he f**king hates Dundee". It went down a storm at Plymouth.

[video=youtube;RxHYwIRI88M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxHYwIRI88M&feature=related[/video]

 

[davewebbsbrain]

I sat in the west stand once, block U or V I think for the Chelsea game and it was dead for that match so if they can't get passionate for that game, you have no chance for L2 games. If I remember rightly, there a lot of old folks in the vicinity and although that doesn't mean they lack passion, they may not have the energy us younger chaps have to show it.

Even the South Upper is dead nowerdays, nothing beats the North Bank from back in the day.

 

[EastStandBlue]

I try to involve other fans, it might make people sing up, Paul Sturrock saying that the crowd is one ofthe quietest he's managed has got other parts of the ground singing! Why wouldn't this work!? Paul's comments improved the atmosphere! Things like this effect people in different ways, if it gets five others singing it's working isn't it?
I apologise if you are offended by this light hearted video, that's not the point of it!

I'm not offended, but I can see why those you're filming may be...

 

[Feathers]

I really don't know what you are trying to prove here. Some people go to the game and like to sing/chant throughout, others prefer to sit and watch. Your preference is to sing - that's your prerogative but I can't see how that makes you a "better" supporter or why you feel the need to video people you prefer to watch a game in a different way to you.

I actually think TBV are doing a great job and have set up a section for like minded people to get together and enjoy the game. By doing so they have also recognised that not everyone wants to join in with their chants.

I go to the game with my wife and sit in S block. We are in our 40's. Everyone around us are season ticket holders and the average age is probably about 50. There is very little singing but plenty of shouts of encouragement and fortunately not too many negative comments. Unlike many people who have stopped coming following our 2 relegations we have all renewed our season tickets, turn up every week and go to some away games.

You probably wouldn't like it in S block. Fair enough, I would'nt like it in V block but I am not going to video them because they support Southend in a different way to me.

 

[davewebbsbrain]

I really don't know what you are trying to prove here. Some people go to the game and like to sing/chant throughout, others prefer to sit and watch. Your preference is to sing - that's your prerogative but I can't see how that makes you a "better" supporter or why you feel the need to video people you prefer to watch a game in a different way to you.

I actually think TBV are doing a great job and have set up a section for like minded people to get together and enjoy the game. By doing so they have also recognised that not everyone wants to join in with their chants.

I go to the game with my wife and sit in S block. We are in our 40's. Everyone around us are season ticket holders and the average age is probably about 50. There is very little singing but plenty of shouts of encouragement and fortunately not too many negative comments. Unlike many people who have stopped coming following our 2 relegations we have all renewed our season tickets, turn up every week and go to some away games.

You probably wouldn't like it in S block. Fair enough, I would'nt like it in V block but I am not going to video them because they support Southend in a different way to me.

Some very good points made there.

 

[David Essex]

great video.....very funny too.....I won a season ticket for the East Greens and its pretty much the same over there....although there were three ladies in the box above us who were doing their best to get the singing going but they were so in tune it was actually quite relaxing listening to them.....

 

[Medway Blue]

As some have already said, people like to watch football in different ways. I'm not a big singer or chanter. I'm poor at multitasking, what can I say? If I'm up on my feet, singing and chanting and trying to encourage others to do the same, my concentration on the game lapses. I'm quite a close and intent watcher of what is going on on the pitch. That is what I have paid my money to do, watch the football, not sing and chant. At the same time, I do not begrudge anyone's wish to do the opposite. It's just personal preference, that's all.

But just because I don't sing and dance, doesn't mean I'm not showing emotion. I get excited when we play well, I'm on my feet if there is a goalscoring opportunity, I have my head in my hands when a good chance is missed, I shout encouragement and verbally congratulate/applaud a good piece of play by the team or by an individual. I just don't really sing or chant. I don't feel that I need to do so in order to show my support.

The problem in RH isn't really the lack of singing and chanting. RH has never been a place where you will hear swathes of the home support singing and dancing. Obviously during the more successful recent years you might have done, but that is an anomoly and was due to the increased crowds and the extra people (many of whom were probably Premiership fans who hadn't been to see Southend often) who went to watch based on the club's success. The success of that 4-year spell probably made people think that 8,000+ home crowds and loads of singing and chanting at Roots Hall is normal. It isn't. The hardcore c. 4,000 who were watching the Simon Colemans, Simon Livetts, Gordon Connellys and Barrington Belgraves in the old Division 3 do not have a huge bunch of singers and chanters amongst them. A lot of the singers and chanters of the last few years were probably, you will find, clingers-on from the success who are now staying away.

What IS missing is the smaller gestures of support, the shouts of encouragement, all sides of the ground getting excited, the regular and consistent applause......because this isn't happening anymore, there are long periods of utter silence. I don't think I'm wrong in saying that there was only marginally more singing in the ground on average last season, and that was only because crowds were bigger. But I certainly don't recall there being long periods of silence from the home crowd last season like there are this season, because there was more general encouragement and applause last season.

People have to remember that some people have been adversely affected emotionally by what has gone on. Some people continue to show the same level of support no matter what, some people don't go at all anymore, and some people still go but aren't anywhere near as excited or emotionally invested as they were last season and before. Again, people are different, we're not all robotic carbon copies of each other. The lack of tolerance drives me mad. People react to adversity in whichever way suits them and people choose to support the team in whichever way suits them. People should just mind their own business and concentrate on how they're showing their support instead of focussing on others and getting their knickers in a twist because people aren't supporting the team how they think they should be.

It has taken some people very little time to move on from what has happened recently. For others it will take time to get emotionally invested in our first new manager in 7 and a half years and 20+ new players. Sure, those people will still go because they still support Southend United but reaction to such upheaval among 5,000+ fans is bound to vary and some people might not yet be at the stage where they feel like singing and chanting. Deal with it.

 

[Swiss Tony]

That's not the point that's being made at all. The point is that by filming them sitting down, and you seem to think that it's hilarious, you're not actually achieving anything apart from alienating those that may not particularly feel like chanting or singing. If you genuinely want to improve the atmosphere, then you should be looking to involve other supporters, not mock and humiliate them.

Here's a first,i totally agree with you,OBD that filming of other folk ain't right mate kind of creepy to be honest.

 

[grassroots]

You have no right to video individuals and post them on here, let alone telling them how they need to behave when watching OUR club. You need to grow up.

This video needs to be removed.

 

[GBJ]

What I don't get, is the fact it's ment to be funny?

 

[Tommy2holes]

I just think the following is slaughtering the atmosphere this season.

Poor crowds

Lack of faith in the board/ managment

Dissapointment of previous seasons

Non- exciting football

A genuine lack of away support to banter with

Not scoring/ creating enough

With all of that said , i think that to still be getting 5k+ home fans is exceptional.

If i where tara brady trying to sell the club to investors i would have been saying " Look how **** and dull this is , but we are still getting 5k tonight. Imagine how many we would get in a our new stadium in the championship"

 

[Mick]

What I don't get, is the fact it's ment to be funny?

Not just funny, he also thinks it's incredible. You go to a part of the ground occupied clearly by some of our older supporters and film them sitting down apparently intent on watching the game. Shocking! Why aren't they on their feet shouting "your support is f*cking s*it" at a decent away following for a Friday night. Why are they concentrating on the game rather than indulging in repetitive, sometimes moronic, chanting? Why don't they join in after all, there's nowhere else in society they could get away with that sort of behaviour.

What I think raises the team is a buzz of encouragement around the ground when they attack, the roars from the crowd. Applause and cheers.

I don't actually think songs and drums help that much and I would certainly defend anyone who does not wish to take part whilst adopting a give and take approach in allowing those that want to, to do so in a discrete (as opposed to discreet) area.

I think the moderators should consider removing the video as it could be an unwanted precedent.

 

[Medway Blue]

Not just funny, he also thinks it's incredible. You go to a part of the ground occupied clearly by some of our older supporters and film them sitting down apparently intent on watching the game. Shocking! Why aren't they on their feet shouting "your support is f*cking s*it" at a decent away following for a Friday night. Why are they concentrating on the game rather than indulging in repetitive, sometimes moronic, chanting? Why don't they join in after all, there's nowhere else in society they could get away with that sort of behaviour.

What I think raises the team is a buzz of encouragement around the ground when they attack, the roars from the crowd. Applause and cheers.

I don't actually think songs and drums help that much and I would certainly defend anyone who does not wish to take part whilst adopting a give and take approach in allowing those that want to, to do so in a discrete (as opposed to discreet) area.

I think the moderators should consider removing the video as it could be an unwanted precedent.

Basically what i was trying to say, but you've done it in a much more succinct way!

 

[McNasty]

After complaints of invasion of privacy the video has been removed.

 

[Onion_Bag_Dave]

After complaints of invasion of privacy the video has been removed.

Fair enough, if people where unhappy about this, I shall remove it from my channel also.

 

[McNasty]

Fair enough, if people where unhappy about this, I shall remove it from my channel also.

Some people might not want others to know they are there ( bunking off work etc).

A few years ago there were about 8 of us sitting together in the East watching the reserves one day and the bird from the Echo starts taking photos of the crowd.

7 of us were either sick or awol from work. It was funny watching people putting their hands over their faces shouting "No photos, no photos".

 

[South Bank Hank]

After complaints of invasion of privacy the video has been removed...

...along with the posts containing personal abuse and threats of violence. No complaints received but any future threats of violence will be an instant ban from ShrimperZone.

 

[davewebbsbrain]

...along with the posts containing personal abuse and threats of violence. No complaints received but any future threats will be an instant ban from ShrimperZone.

Does that mean Badgers kind offer of a good kicking has now been withdrawn?

 

[CyrilSneer]

Haven't seen the video, but I was sitting down for most of the game, mainly as there wasn't much to get excited about. Well done to those who wanted to sing and chant during the game, but the majority didn't see most of the game I expect, as they were too busy facing those sitting down.