Work To Start In The Summer

[pringlejon]

i remember reading somewhere that there is potential to expand the new stadium if we need to. has anyone got a link or can anyone say by how much? cheers.

 

[EastStandBlue]

By another 10,000 Seats I think in the opposite stand to the Main Stand to make it 2-Tiered as well.

 

[BrettieAngell]

Was this ever confirmed on the OS?

 

[SARF]

Everything west of Pitsea land will still be West Ham vermin.. after that its Blues country.. 20 k crowds by 2012 !!!

 

[Up the Shrimpers]

Tonights Echo 'Change to Stadium plans' page 11. Revised planning permission to be submitted, the number of retail and leisure units to be reduced due to the current economic situation. It also mentions again the sale of Boots and Laces training ground to the football club? I never knew it was owned by the Council in the first place.

Council planning meeting will be brought forward so it still should allow work to start in the summer.

 

[Medway Blue]

i remember reading somewhere that there is potential to expand the new stadium if we need to. has anyone got a link or can anyone say by how much? cheers.

I don't have a link, but I remember it being heavily suggested (and perhaps said by RM in a Q&A?) that FF could be expanded to 32-34,000.

Tonights Echo 'Change to Stadium plans' page 11. Revised planning permission to be submitted, the number of retail and leisure units to be reduced due to the current economic situation. It also mentions again the sale of Boots and Laces training ground to the football club? I never knew it was owned by the Council in the first place.

Council planning meeting will be brought forward so it still should allow work to start in the summer.

Yep, I read this too. Let's just hope it's finally passed once and for all, hitch and delay free, and let that be the end of it so that they can get the diggers on site over the summer.

 

[OldBlueLady]

Must admit, I thought the Club purchased Boots and Laces after it was the Access Sports and Social Club, maybe it was never actually owned by Access either, just leased.

 

[Medway Blue]

Must admit, I thought the Club purchased Boots and Laces after it was the Access Sports and Social Club, maybe it was never actually owned by Access either, just leased.

I don't think the club as an entity ever purchased it. I know B&L was owned by the council in the recent past, and I was never under the impression that the club had sought to buy it.

 

[bluebrian]

Tonights Echo 'Change to Stadium plans' page 11. Revised planning permission to be submitted, the number of retail and leisure units to be reduced due to the current economic situation. It also mentions again the sale of Boots and Laces training ground to the football club? I never knew it was owned by the Council in the first place.

Council planning meeting will be brought forward so it still should allow work to start in the summer.

Does anyone know anything about last nights council meeting??

 

[Up the Shrimpers]

Does anyone know anything about last nights council meeting??

Was the meeting last night? Yesterdays Echo just stated the planning meeting will be brought forward, not sure it mentioned a date?

 

[bluebrian]

Was the meeting last night? Yesterdays Echo just stated the planning meeting will be brought forward, not sure it mentioned a date?

It said in last nights Echo and I quote:

' A special meeting of senior councillors this evening is set to give the final approval needed for the stadium, which will mean the plans for a new Sainsbury's supermarket, at Roots Hall, can go ahead. This in turn, will provide the funding for the 22,000 -seater stadium'

I know the echo isnt necessarily a reliable source but if this is correct isnt it a momentus point in our history? No one seems to know anything and its not being talked about much on here. Maybe I'm just getting my hopes up...

 

[Homer]

http://www.southend.gov.uk/minutes/

look under the title cabinet special meeting 1730hrs all items are on there
could not finf wether the council have given the green light

 

[bluebrian]

http://www.southend.gov.uk/minutes/

look under the title cabinet special meeting 1730hrs all items are on there
could not finf wether the council have given the green light

Thanks Mr Homer - agreed cant see if they have been approved or not...maybe Ron will update us in his blog!

 

[bluebrian]

I don't think the club as an entity ever purchased it. I know B&L was owned by the council in the recent past, and I was never under the impression that the club had sought to buy it.

Taken from a report at last nights council meeting:

The Council owns the freehold of the Training Ground at Fossetts Farm which is shown by hatching on the plan at Appendix 1 and comprises just over 10 acres.

However, there are covenants on the Council’s freehold title which restrict its use to playing fields and ancillary uses. The benefit of these freehold covenants is vested in Tribeca Property Southend Company Limited (‘Tribeca’), which is a company owned by Mezcal Investments Limited (‘Mezcal’).



The Council has leased the Training Ground for the use of Southend United FC. This lease still has some 63 years to run. The actual lease is held by South East Leisure UK Limited (SEL), and SEL own 100% of Roots Hall Limited and 76% of Southend United FC. SEL is a company owned 50% by Mezcal and 50% by Martin Dawn plc.

3.2 The site for the proposed new stadium at Fossetts Farm

Immediately to the north of the Training Ground is a 20 acre piece of land which Southend United FC proposes to develop for a new stadium, in conjunction with enabling retail development on the Training Ground. This stadium land is owned by Tribeca.

 

[Pubey]

Taken from a report at last nights council meeting:

The Council owns the freehold of the Training Ground at Fossetts Farm which is shown by hatching on the plan at Appendix 1 and comprises just over 10 acres.

However, there are covenants on the Council’s freehold title which restrict its use to playing fields and ancillary uses. The benefit of these freehold covenants is vested in Tribeca Property Southend Company Limited (‘Tribeca’), which is a company owned by Mezcal Investments Limited (‘Mezcal’).



The Council has leased the Training Ground for the use of Southend United FC. This lease still has some 63 years to run. The actual lease is held by South East Leisure UK Limited (SEL), and SEL own 100% of Roots Hall Limited and 76% of Southend United FC. SEL is a company owned 50% by Mezcal and 50% by Martin Dawn plc.

3.2 The site for the proposed new stadium at Fossetts Farm

Immediately to the north of the Training Ground is a 20 acre piece of land which Southend United FC proposes to develop for a new stadium, in conjunction with enabling retail development on the Training Ground. This stadium land is owned by Tribeca.

interesting stuff, gives an indication on how the ownership of SUFC/Roots Hall/SEL is set up

 

[bluebrian]

interesting stuff, gives an indication on how the ownership of SUFC/Roots Hall/SEL is set up

This is the first time I have heard the name Tribeca mentioned - anyone know who they are?

 

[Firestorm]

Comanies house list a number of Tribeca's , including...


TRIBECA LIMITED
250 HENDON WAY
LONDON
NW7 3NL
Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
7487 - Other business activities
Date of Incorporation: 11/06/1998

TRIBECA DEVELOPER PORTMAN UK LIMITED
6TH FLOOR, LANSDOWNE HOUSE
BERKELEY SQUARE
LONDON
W1J 6ER
Date of Incorporation: 21/02/2006
Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
7487 - Other business activities

TRIBECA GLOBAL MANAGEMENT (EUROPE) LTD
41 BERKELEY SQUARE
LONDON
W1J 5AN
6711 - Administration of financial markets
Date of Incorporation: 08/03/2005
TRIBECA PROJECTS LTD
PETERDEN HOUSE
1A LEIGHTON ROAD
LONDON
W13 9EL
Date of Incorporation: 05/06/2002
7011 - Development & sell real estate
Status: Active - Proposal to Strike off

TRIBECA UK LIMITED
6TH
FLOOR LANSDOWNE HOUSE BERKELEY SQUARE
LONDON
UNITED KINGDOM
W1J 6ER
Date of Incorporation: 28/05/2008
Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
None Supplied
TRIBECCA INTERNATIONAL LIMITED
61 PRAED STREET SUITE 156
LONDON
W2 1NS
Status: Active - Proposal to Strike off
Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
7011 - Development & sell real estate
Date of Incorporation: 08/05/2003

TRIBECA PROPERTIES LIMITED
SUITE 18 1B
THE CODA CENTRE
189 MUNSTER ROAD
LONDON
SW6 6AW
Status: Active - Proposal to Strike off
Date of Incorporation: 15/01/2004
Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
7020 - Letting of own property

Edit...Its the three in bold as Delancey's head office is ......
6TH FLOOR LANSDOWNE HOUSE
BERKELEY SQUARE
LONDON
W1J 6ER

 

[Firestorm]

http://www.delancey.com/news/releas...t=19990101&dateend=20090310&sortby=&dir=&cat=

Tribeca bought Delancey estates PLC in 2001 which does appears to have been a transfer into private ownership

Jamie Ritblat (one of those who told RM to can John Main) is listed as one of the contacts at Tribeca , but he his also the main man at delancy

From the Times dec 07 http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/movers_and_shakers/article3060140.ece

After schooling at Eton and then dropping out of Bristol University,Jamie Ritblat started out at Michael Laurie & Partners, a property agency. He joined British Land and joined the board in 1993, but left two years later to set up shop on his own, with backing from his father and George Soros’s Quantum fund. The firm eventually morphed into Delancey and was floated on the London Stock Exchange in 1998.

Mr Ritblat, with backing from Royal Bank of Scotland, took the company private in the spring of 2001 for £264 million after becoming frustrated with the value being put on property stocks at the time.

So basically, having bought SEL out from Delancey back in 2007 Ron is still dependent on Delancey for the new stadium as they own the land we want to build it on !

 

[Up the Shrimpers]

Page 5 of todays Echo. 'Casino at Blues ground' The leisure and shopping part of the scheme will be remodelled to include the casino and a Morrisons Supermarket.

Looks like all the amedments to the plans were passed by the council the other night.

 

[bluebrian]

http://www.delancey.com/news/releas...t=19990101&dateend=20090310&sortby=&dir=&cat=

Tribeca bought Delancey estates PLC in 2001 which does appears to have been a transfer into private ownership

Jamie Ritblat (one of those who told RM to can John Main) is listed as one of the contacts at Tribeca , but he his also the main man at delancy

From the Times dec 07 http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/movers_and_shakers/article3060140.ece

After schooling at Eton and then dropping out of Bristol University,Jamie Ritblat started out at Michael Laurie & Partners, a property agency. He joined British Land and joined the board in 1993, but left two years later to set up shop on his own, with backing from his father and George Soros’s Quantum fund. The firm eventually morphed into Delancey and was floated on the London Stock Exchange in 1998.

Mr Ritblat, with backing from Royal Bank of Scotland, took the company private in the spring of 2001 for £264 million after becoming frustrated with the value being put on property stocks at the time.

So basically, having bought SEL out from Delancey back in 2007 Ron is still dependent on Delancey for the new stadium as they own the land we want to build it on !

Exactly so all that stuff Ron was spouting about buying Delancy out amounts to nothing as it appears that all the same players are still involved??