New Keeper

[Jam_Man]

Maybe for you. But in reality it is just another job. Sometimes a very well paid one, but it is still just a job.

Does a stock broker or a factory worker have kids asking for autographs ?

Footballers arent expected to be whiter than white but Football is not just another job.

Its the fact supporters will idolise him that doesnt sit right with me,.

If it was just another job his application form would be straight in the bin when he ticked criminal record and he wouldnt be as employable...

 

[SuperShrimper1906]

I second this

 

[Jam_Man]

I second this

Wise words and welcome to the zone.

Hope you werent born in 1906!

 

[Angell Delight]

Over the limit still at 5am + lack of sleep + driving at 100mph. One defence people raise is how many people have driven after a night out, I certainly have, but not at 5am and certainly not at 100mph.

He can rebuild his life, he doesnt need to be a professional footballer though and can do it in other ways. Get into coaching school kids / underprivileged kids etc.

For me a professional footballer is a privileged role and one that puts the player in a position to be idolised. He made a mistake and served his time but Ill never accept a player like him in the team.

Me neither.

 

[Blues 'n twos]

If it was just another job his application form would be straight in the bin when he ticked criminal record and he wouldnt be as employable...

Agree with this 100%, at a time where football is being dragged through the gutter by the actions of a privelidged few, and the impression that is put on youngsters who idolise these players, perhaps if players had to pass a CRB check before being offered a contract they would be more "selective" of their actions.

 

[Beefy]

If it was just another job his application form would be straight in the bin when he ticked criminal record and he wouldnt be as employable...

And that's what has happened here. McCormick was a promising young keeper in the second tier. Now he's struggling to get a contract in the third or fourth tier due to his criminal record making him less employable.

 

[Norwichshrimper]

Over the limit still at 5am + lack of sleep + driving at 100mph. One defence people raise is how many people have driven after a night out, I certainly have, but not at 5am and certainly not at 100mph.

He can rebuild his life, he doesnt need to be a professional footballer though and can do it in other ways. Get into coaching school kids / underprivileged kids etc.

For me a professional footballer is a privileged role and one that puts the player in a position to be idolised. He made a mistake and served his time but Ill never accept a player like him in the team.

Me neither.

But Ricky Otto was OK I assume?

 

[londonblue]

Does a stock broker or a factory worker have kids asking for autographs ?

Footballers arent expected to be whiter than white but Football is not just another job.

Its the fact supporters will idolise him that doesnt sit right with me,.

If it was just another job his application form would be straight in the bin when he ticked criminal record and he wouldnt be as employable...

It's not a footballer's "fault" that his job is high profile.

You're also wrong with regards to a job application being in the bin because of a criminal record. Once a conviction is spent it doesn't have to be declared. Using your examples of a stock broker or a factory worker, they actually have it easier because once their conviction is spent, no employee will ever know they were convicted. Because a footballer is in the public eye everyone will know until he retires whether he declares it or not.

 

[Smiffy]

Joe Lewis is a keeper I would love to see here.

Unfortunately I think we can safely rule that one out.

 

[Beefy]

I'd say so, didn't he sign for Cardiff last week?

 

[Smiffy]

I'd say so, didn't he sign for Cardiff last week?

No idea.

Not even worth bothering to check!

Rob Burch was also touted as a decent keeper at one stage.

 

[southendkid]

If it was just another job his application form would be straight in the bin when he ticked criminal record and he wouldnt be as employable...

Agree with this 100%, at a time where football is being dragged through the gutter by the actions of a privelidged few, and the impression that is put on youngsters who idolise these players, perhaps if players had to pass a CRB check before being offered a contract they would be more "selective" of their actions.

No it wouldn't, even if the criminal record did have to be declared that doesn't mean people won't still hire someone just based off of that, every person that has served time is not unemployed. The whole role model thing is also a grey area, I'm not sure how many children are going to idolise Luke McCormick so much that they get inspired to drink drive at 100mph, especially when the person they could be idealising wouldn't be endorsing drink driving, if anything I wouldn't be suprised if at some point Luke becomes part of an anti drink driving campaign.

 

[lee bradbury is a legend]

How about Arran Lee-Barrett?

 

[Jam_Man]

No it wouldn't, even if the criminal record did have to be declared that doesn't mean people won't still hire someone just based off of that, every person that has served time is not unemployed. The whole role model thing is also a grey area, I'm not sure how many children are going to idolise Luke McCormick so much that they get inspired to drink drive at 100mph, especially when the person they could be idealising wouldn't be endorsing drink driving, if anything I wouldn't be suprised if at some point Luke becomes part of an anti drink driving campaign.

I have recruited on numerous occasions. We get hundreds of applications, people with criminal records have no chance against people without.

Yes they will get jobs but they will struggle against anyone who doesnt have one.

As for kids idolising him I'm not saying he encourages them to drink but that he just doesn't deserve to be idolised. He has already offered to do ant drink campaigns which is great, but that's not enough for me to forget what're did.

 

[davewebbsbrain]

I have recruited on numerous occasions. We get hundreds of applications, people with criminal records have no chance against people without.

Yes they will get jobs but they will struggle against anyone who doesnt have one.

As for kids idolising him I'm not saying he encourages them to drink but that he just doesn't deserve to be idolised. He has already offered to do ant drink campaigns which is great, but that's not enough for me to forget what're did.

Everyone makes mistakes...we are all imperfect specimens.

 

[southendkid]

I have recruited on numerous occasions. We get hundreds of applications, people with criminal records have no chance against people without.

Yes they will get jobs but they will struggle against anyone who doesnt have one.

As for kids idolising him I'm not saying he encourages them to drink but that he just doesn't deserve to be idolised. He has already offered to do ant drink campaigns which is great, but that's not enough for me to forget what're did.

Fair enough if there are 2 identical candidates then the one without the record would be more likely to get the job, but what if the one with a record was also the most qualified and best candidate for the job? Would a record still override everything else on his CV no matter how brilliant? He is training at a league one club, despite having the ability to play at a higher level, so perhaps that's a fairer comparison.

 

[OldBlueLady]

I have recruited on numerous occasions. We get hundreds of applications, people with criminal records have no chance against people without.

Yes they will get jobs but they will struggle against anyone who doesnt have one.

As for kids idolising him I'm not saying he encourages them to drink but that he just doesn't deserve to be idolised. He has already offered to do ant drink campaigns which is great, but that's not enough for me to forget what're did.

I'd have thought that surely that is basic discrimination. An employer should employ the best candidate for the job. I appreciate there are certain jobs where certain checks have to be made and that someone failing those checks is not going to be given the job (well, hopefully) but other than that, when a conviction/sentence has been spent then their employability becomes on a level par with other candidates.

 

[Blues 'n twos]

No it wouldn't, even if the criminal record did have to be declared that doesn't mean people won't still hire someone just based off of that, every person that has served time is not unemployed. The whole role model thing is also a grey area, I'm not sure how many children are going to idolise Luke McCormick so much that they get inspired to drink drive at 100mph, especially when the person they could be idealising wouldn't be endorsing drink driving, if anything I wouldn't be suprised if at some point Luke becomes part of an anti drink driving campaign.

Your comments, which you are entitled to, must be so heartening to the parents of the 2 children he killed. To me the thought of any other child chanting " theres only 1 Luke McCormick" after he has made a save turns my stomach. MY OPINION.
Pro footballers like it or lump it do become role models, and in my job, if I had done the same, it would be thanks but no chance, and rightly so. Not saying he should never work but not with the priveliges professional football brings.

 

[shrimperian]

I would of thought that McCormick would have had enough of trials! He might be found guilty all over again!

 

[Angell Delight]

Your comments, which you are entitled to, must be so heartening to the parents of the 2 children he killed. To me the thought of any other child chanting " theres only 1 Luke McCormick" after he has made a save turns my stomach. MY OPINION.
Pro footballers like it or lump it do become role models, and in my job, if I had done the same, it would be thanks but no chance, and rightly so. Not saying he should never work but not with the priveliges professional football brings.

It's also my opinion too mate. Sorry but not in my back yard - if we took him on there would be a fair few angry supporters who voice their objection to Ron and the management, of that I'm sure.