Tax-credits-the new poll tax for the Tories?

[mrsblue]

Then he's hardly a "druggie" is he?

It's illegal activity involving drugs which weed comes under that banner.

FWIW it should all be legal IMO ,treat adults as adults.

 

[callan]

I work with heroin addicts day in day out.
Most will be known to services and anyone working with them will ensure that they receive their full benefit entitlement.
This will be done via the benefits calculator available to all on the Yougov site.
In my experience heroin addicts are less burdensome to the tax payer than say an alcoholic, and several studies by academics bear this out.
Many of the heroin users I have worked with have managed to live relatively normal lives outside of their addiction meaning work and raising families is not out of the question.
What I would be interested to know other than Daily mail outrage is are we better of as society working with addicts and supporting them?....or writing them off and leaving them to their own devices?
If you penalise addiction by refusing benefits etc then I would suggest that the cost to society becomes higher both morally and financially.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Sorry to bring back the thread to an ontopic post but the Resolution Foundation has called for the Chancellor to abandon tax- credits.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...bn-without-cutting-tax-credits-says-thinktank

Guess we'll just have to wait for another three weeks for his autumn statement to find out if Boy George has been listening or not.

Meanwhile Scotland and the SNP lead the way.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...eon-replace-family-tax-credit-losses-scotland

 

[MK Shrimper]

Sorry to bring back the thread to an ontopic post but the Resolution Foundation has called for the Chancellor to abandon tax- credits.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...bn-without-cutting-tax-credits-says-thinktank

Guess we'll just have to wait for another three weeks for his autumn statement to find out if Boy George has been listening or not.

Meanwhile Scotland and the SNP lead the way.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...eon-replace-family-tax-credit-losses-scotland

Er, I think you meant abandoning cutting tax credits.

 

[mrsblue]

I work with heroin addicts day in day out.
Most will be known to services and anyone working with them will ensure that they receive their full benefit entitlement.
This will be done via the benefits calculator available to all on the Yougov site.
In my experience heroin addicts are less burdensome to the tax payer than say an alcoholic, and several studies by academics bear this out.
Many of the heroin users I have worked with have managed to live relatively normal lives outside of their addiction meaning work and raising families is not out of the question.
What I would be interested to know other than Daily mail outrage is are we better of as society working with addicts and supporting them?....or writing them off and leaving them to their own devices?
If you penalise addiction by refusing benefits etc then I would suggest that the cost to society becomes higher both morally and financially.

Why do they need a brand new never been slept in property?

The guy appeared to be looking for trouble from his neighbours even though he has not met them,is it ok this bloke can have music pounding out without any recourse whilst enjoying his new property .

As I stated as far as I understand his thing is weed.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Er, I think you meant abandoning cutting tax credits.

Um...yes.:blush:

 

[MK Shrimper]

Now even a Conservative controlled committee condemns Osbourne's proposed tax credit cuts.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...eorge-osborne-planned-tax-credit-cuts-reforms

Time's running out George, if you want to salvage your political career I'd drop them like a stone.

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Now even a Conservative controlled committee condemns Osbourne's proposed tax credit cuts.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...eorge-osborne-planned-tax-credit-cuts-reforms

Time's running out George, if you want to salvage your political career I'd drop them like a stone.

As picked up by the BBC.:winking:

 

[MK Shrimper]

And Georgy boy does a complete U-Turn and thankfully drops the whole daft idea.

 

[londonblue]

And Georgy boy does a complete U-Turn and thankfully drops the whole daft idea.

His justification for doing so (or at least the way the BBC told it) begs the question why he was going to do it at all.

 

[Napster]

And Georgy boy does a complete U-Turn and thankfully drops the whole daft idea.

the cuts will still happen but as part of the new universal credit scheme not tax credits.

 

[MK Shrimper]

His justification for doing so (or at least the way the BBC told it) begs the question why he was going to do it at all.

Because most if not all Tory MPs have no understanding of how real people live?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

the cuts will still happen but as part of the new universal credit scheme not tax credits.

BOY George got his sums badly wrong in the last Parliament.

The tax-credits cuts fiasco is a clear sign that's he unlikely to get them right this time around,either.

 

[callan]

BOY George got his sums badly wrong in the last Parliament.

The tax-credits cuts fiasco is a clear sign that's he unlikely to get them right this time around,either.

Did he have to leave a note saying there was no money left?

 

[Yorkshire Blue]

BOY George got his sums badly wrong in the last Parliament.

The tax-credits cuts fiasco is a clear sign that's he unlikely to get them right this time around,either.

One thing he's definitely got right though is abolishing pension credit payments for those who have left the country. Hopefully this is just the start of the crackdown on this group.

 

[Benfleet A1]

On the face of it, not too terrible. Seeing as the usual suspects can't offer up anything better than a few petty snipes, it wasn't nearly as bad as many thought.

 

[mrsblue]

The response from Jonny Mac was one massive disaster,bringing out little red book which had every one in stitches,Labour are a complete shambolic party who are utterly clueless.

 

[Blueronron]

The response from Jonny Mac was one massive disaster,bringing out little red book which had every one in stitches,Labour are a complete shambolic party who are utterly clueless.

But surely the context of his quote was correct from the book ?

 

[Tangled up in Blue]

Did he have to leave a note saying there was no money left?

It's about time The Tories (and you Kippers) took on board what John McDonnell said ie you can't keep blaming the previous Labour government for ever.

It was Boy George who promised to wipe out the deficit in one parliamentary term.Not Gordon Brown or even Alistair Darling.

One thing he's definitely got right though is abolishing pension credit payments for those who have left the country. Hopefully this is just the start of the crackdown on this group.

Something that doesn't affect me yet...fortunately.:smile:

 

[Uncle Leo]

It was Boy George who promised to wipe out the deficit in one parliamentary term.Not Gordon Brown or even Malcolm Darling.

The ex-Sheffield Wednesday winger?