Goalkeeper rule change

[Lavender Blue]

Is this like the rule to add wasted minutes on at the end of the match, beginning of the season we saw 10+ minutes being added, then after a few weeks it went back down to the obligatory 4, this will end the same way. Stupid rule, no need for it, it won’t work and won’t be enforced past the 1st month of the season.

 

[londonblue]

If it speeds up the game then great, but i don't really get why referees aren't just told to enforce the current 6 second law, and to be instructed to start the count when the 'keeper catches the ball, not when they eventually stand up. They're all timing the match anyway so keeping an eye on their watch until the 'keeper releases isn't all that difficult.

My main issue is the punishment. Call me traditional, but I don't like the idea of giving a corner when the ball hasn't crossed the goal line. It's more like a penalty corner in hockey.

 

[Whispering Bob]

I would personally enjoy the pantomime of the crowd chanting "1-2-3 etc" as soon as the keeper had the ball in his hands.

 

[rigsby]

Good idea. Keepers definitely need to get the ball back in play much quicker. Time added on is a price worth paying if you need to kill momentum. Anyway who wants games lasting over 100mins.

Yes I know the refs could enforce it more at the moment but a corner is far more likely to be awarded rather than an indirect free kick. The threat should stop keeper cheating. If they go down holding the ball then tough, still award corner.

Yes they will go down after someone shoots over the bar.......They should not restart with a goal kick but corner instead.

Then they just need to give the increasing ridiculous fail throws the other way. Same for stealing 10 yds every throw.

 

[* ORM *]

There was nothing wrong with the existing rule, it just wasn’t enforced. The 8 second ruling should be applied to VAR instead. There was a decision the other day that took over SIX minutes to make.

 

[Fairport]

One problem could be when the keeper catches the ball then dives on it and wastes time, over 8 seconds (which is what happens regularly). He could claim that he is injured, in the meantime the referee blows for a corner. The keeper may or may not be injured. The referee then has a difficult decision to make.

 

[Blues4LifeDan]

I'm sure there is a loophole that keepers already use anyway, by bouncing the ball. That technically means the ball isn't being held for a sustained period of time.

It's all nonsense anyway. This should be controlled already by the refs who already have the power to book players for time wasting, but very often don't until the latter stages of a match. That's one thing that really annoys me. You hear commentators say it about bad challenges early on in games, "Maybe he didn't book him because it's early on in the game." No it's a yellow card in whichever minute, same for time wasting. We've seen many sides literally do it from minute one. If refs aren't currently using rules that are already in place to enforce positive change, do we really think they will enforce this corner one?

Rules are never enforced properly. Wasn't it the world cup or the euros when they were adding 15 mins of injury time because of time wasting. That seems to have stopped. Is that really because players have stopped doing it, or because refs have stopped counting the minutes? Same with not surrounding the ref. Is that always enforced? Wrexham getting that goal overturned at Roots Hall suggests otherwise.

 

[Richard Hearn]

I'm sure there is a loophole that keepers already use anyway, by bouncing the ball. That technically means the ball isn't being held for a sustained period of time.

It's all nonsense anyway. This should be controlled already by the refs who already have the power to book players for time wasting, but very often don't until the latter stages of a match. That's one thing that really annoys me. You hear commentators say it about bad challenges early on in games, "Maybe he didn't book him because it's early on in the game." No it's a yellow card in whichever minute, same for time wasting. We've seen many sides literally do it from minute one. If refs aren't currently using rules that are already in place to enforce positive change, do we really think they will enforce this corner one?

Rules are never enforced properly. Wasn't it the world cup or the euros when they were adding 15 mins of injury time because of time wasting. That seems to have stopped. Is that really because players have stopped doing it, or because refs have stopped counting the minutes? Same with not surrounding the ref. Is that always enforced? Wrexham getting that goal overturned at Roots Hall suggests otherwise.

This is why I voted "No".

It will be just another bit of rule tinkering that won't be enforced.

 

[londonblue]

There was nothing wrong with the existing rule, it just wasn’t enforced. The 8 second ruling should be applied to VAR instead. There was a decision the other day that took over SIX minutes to make.

Not wanting to divert the thread, but if a review takes that long then how can it be classified as a "clear and obvious error"?

 

[londonblue]

One problem could be when the keeper catches the ball then dives on it and wastes time, over 8 seconds (which is what happens regularly). He could claim that he is injured, in the meantime the referee blows for a corner. The keeper may or may not be injured. The referee then has a difficult decision to make.

Indeed. There will be times when that might happen. But 99.99% of the time it will be obvious and not an issue.

(And, no, that isn't a statistic. I made it up!)

 

[Shrimper93]

A booking after 8 is much more of an incentive to not time waste, there is no guarantee that the opposition are going to score from a corner.

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

Surely the answer is to return to the original (?) ruling, where a goalkeeper holding the ball with two feet on the ground could legitimately be shoulder charged by an opposing player.

They'd shift the ball pretty quickly then!

You might not think that if you saw the 'shoulder charge' on Harry Gregg in the 1958 Cup final. It would be a red card today!

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

I repeat the question: how will it be timed?
Please don't tell me NL refs will have the presence of mind to glance at their stopwatch the instant a ball is in a keeper hands.
Because if they did, the six-second law would have been enforced far more often.
This is open to abuse: one ref's eight seconds is another's 10 - and so on.

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

I would personally enjoy the pantomime of the crowd chanting "1-2-3 etc" as soon as the keeper had the ball in his hands.

It actually helps amateur basketball players to get off their shot!

 

[Bolton Shrimper]

I couldn’t care less. Players, Managers and particularly the Custodians of “the beautiful game” have been slowly changing it for the worst since the 1990’s !!!

 

[PIERS]

Can players still get in the keepers face when he is trying to kick it, no one seems to bother any more. This might bring it back

 

[rigsby]

A booking after 8 is much more of an incentive to not time waste, there is no guarantee that the opposition are going to score from a corner.

The opposition won’t score from a booking either. If the ref was prepared to give a second yellow it might work but that never happens.

 

[Nestudas]

A booking and a corner would be my preference.

 

[fbm]

I voted no because whilst I'm not averse to the corner kick idea as a remedy, what no-one seems to have mentioned is the fact that keepers are now getting an extra 2 seconds to hang onto the ball, which in their minds will mean EVEN LONGER before they have to get rid.

This will make it worse, not better in my opinion.

 

[MilkeySUFC]

I repeat the question: how will it be timed?
Please don't tell me NL refs will have the presence of mind to glance at their stopwatch the instant a ball is in a keeper hands.
Because if they did, the six-second law would have been enforced far more often.
This is open to abuse: one ref's eight seconds is another's 10 - and so on.

After the ref has deemed the 8 seconds has started, he will then raise his arm to indicate there are 5 seconds left and countdown on his fingers of the raised arm.