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Andy Murray

Mate......I think that folk need to live and breath it to be able to truly comment

Exactly!
I certainly had no idea of the in-built hatred & ill feeling towards the English before I moved here. I expected it to be a bit of a wind-up, not the bigoted blinkered view a lot of people actually have.

If I could be bothered to reply I would list a lot of personal experiences over the past 7+ years, but do you know what, I really cannot be bothered!
 
Exactly!
I certainly had no idea of the in-built hatred & ill feeling towards the English before I moved here. I expected it to be a bit of a wind-up, not the bigoted blinkered view a lot of people actually have.

If I could be bothered to reply I would list a lot of personal experiences over the past 7+ years, but do you know what, I really cannot be bothered!

You are 100% spot on....I was told about the in-built hatred & ill feeling before i moved here but thought....that must be over an exaggeration

But after 6 years up here, I like you have experienced countless verbal and physical attacks because i am English, the first week i was up here i got called a Fu**ing English C**t by 3 different folk cos i had my England top on....I don’t wear it now

My mate was badly beaten up because he had an England top on....and do you want to know the irony...his mate was beat up as well, and he was Scottish and they asumed he was English.

People say that it is a minority....but scratch the surface and it really is not. During the last World Cup the leader of the Scottish parliament was asked who he would support and his answer was "anyone who is playing England"

I could go on all day about the amount of hate that the Scotts have for us i really could but it just winds me up.
 
Why does it sound a bit hypocritical????

I'm pretty sure the posts between my previous one and this one explain it quite nicely. Murray says he will support anyone playing England at football which could conceivably be because he doesn't like the team or it could be because he doesn't like England as a place. I don't really care which but all he has said was that he was going to support anyone playing England. What you appear to have done is to stereotype him based on other experiences with Scots. To use a different term, prejudice.

Also, as I'm sure TheFlyingScotsman would point out, it's not like Scots are warmly welcomed in England by everyone. I've seen Scots get loads of grief in England and it always seems to be a fairly brainless type that is involved which I think you could get anywhere.

I am quite curious as to why you both live in a coutnry where you feel so roundly hated though.
 
I am quite curious as to why you both live in a coutnry where you feel so roundly hated though.

Don't want to put words in AS mouth but certainly for me it's the wife's decision. I'd move to the south of England, preferably Essex tomorrow if she'd agree to it.

Judging by some of AS' recent comments, he's further down the route of persuasion than me and might be able to fix his exiled status soon!
 
Don't want to put words in AS mouth but certainly for me it's the wife's decision. I'd move to the south of England, preferably Essex tomorrow if she'd agree to it.

Judging by some of AS' recent comments, he's further down the route of persuasion than me and might be able to fix his exiled status soon!

That is quite correct indeed...I moved up here for work and fell in love. My wife is Scottish, (Aberdeen born and bread), so moving back has to work for both of us. She obviously has all her family, job and friends up here. Although on th job front, she has been asked to send her CV to a London Premiership club for consideration for the HR Managers role....so things could get moving quicker that i first thought.

I desperately want to go back home, and my wife supports the decision...we just have to logistically plan it out and make sure we do it right.

Glasgow...I will give you tips :)
 
I should also add that the tone of the comments were a bit hypocritical, not the highlighted bit. I don't think you are egotistical or jingoistic really. Oh, or a tw*t.

:)


Defiantly not egotistical or jingoistic ....but a Tw*t, ow yes i can be.

I am sure that "J" would agree...Bless him


:finger:
 
I desperately want to go back home, and my wife supports the decision...we just have to logistically plan it out and make sure we do it right.

Glasgow...I will give you tips :)

See, unfortunately mine doesn't support the decision. That is where the impasse lies :(

At the end of the day I'd rather be with her & our daughter here than without them in Essex so it's a contentious issue!
 
See, unfortunately mine doesn't support the decision. That is where the impasse lies :(

At the end of the day I'd rather be with her & our daughter here than without them in Essex so it's a contentious issue!

I would take exactly the same decision.........unless my Tw*t of a neighbour gets his way and makes Scotland independent. You think it is bad now, you will be hunted down like a witch. They will burn the English at the stake
 
That is quite correct indeed...I moved up here for work and fell in love. My wife is Scottish, (Aberdeen born and bread), so moving back has to work for both of us. She obviously has all her family, job and friends up here. Although on th job front, she has been asked to send her CV to a London Premiership club for consideration for the HR Managers role....so things could get moving quicker that i first thought.

I desperately want to go back home, and my wife supports the decision...we just have to logistically plan it out and make sure we do it right.

Glasgow...I will give you tips :)

If it helps,

Chelsea/Fulham: Anything on the way to Wimbledon (from what i've seen) is very nice as are several places past Hammersmith on the Piccadilly line which has decent access.
West Ham: Bethnal Green was good for us and probably a tube change. Obviously places like Upminster may be better value or even back in Southend as you'd know
Spurs/Arsenal: Don't know much about the area round there but with Arsenal you would have to work with a former flatmate of mine and this should be considered carefully!
 
I'm pretty sure the posts between my previous one and this one explain it quite nicely. Murray says he will support anyone playing England at football which could conceivably be because he doesn't like the team or it could be because he doesn't like England as a place. I don't really care which but all he has said was that he was going to support anyone playing England. What you appear to have done is to stereotype him based on other experiences with Scots. To use a different term, prejudice.

Also, as I'm sure TheFlyingScotsman would point out, it's not like Scots are warmly welcomed in England by everyone. I've seen Scots get loads of grief in England and it always seems to be a fairly brainless type that is involved which I think you could get anywhere.

I am quite curious as to why you both live in a coutnry where you feel so roundly hated though.

Also....with out wanting to be pedantic, both myself and Glasgow obviously have the experience of living in both countries for some considerable time so do speak from a strong position of experience and knowledge
 
How is it we always get on to the same conversations regarding nationality?!

He will be fine, just an off day, he can learn from this and mature. What he seems unable to do is adapt his game when he is playing badly. Everyone has off-days, I just feel any excuse is used when a loss occurs. I.e. he wasn't used to the court, so what, neither is anyone else! How is it BRITISH tennis players are the worst at adpating to temperatures, court surfaces, rules, balls etc when essentially (give or take conditions that foreign players are more accustomed to) it is the same for everyone?
 
Also....with out wanting to be pedantic, both myself and Glasgow obviously have the experience of living in both countries for some considerable time so do speak from a strong position of experience and knowledge

I don't see the relevance.

If you'd met Andy Murray and spoken to him about nationality then fair enough but if you've assuming things about him based on a sample of other Scots and one tongue in cheek comment then I don't see the relevance.

As Scronger has pointed out though, this used to be a tennis thread!
 
http://www.murraysworld.com/talk/murray-gives-qa-via-youtube-t7182.0.html;msg245381#msg245381
I don't see the relevance.

If you'd met Andy Murray and spoken to him about nationality then fair enough but if you've assuming things about him based on a sample of other Scots and one tongue in cheek comment then I don't see the relevance.

As Scronger has pointed out though, this used to be a tennis thread!

Ok....lets bring it back to Tennis....in fact back to the great and very intelligent, Andy Murray.

Check out this 5 mins clip of him driving from Aberdeen to Sterling......he did not know what "glass is half empty and glass is half full" meant......not the sharpest in the tool box

The best bit is about 2 mins in when the girls says what are your pet hates....he answers, snakes lol...they had to explain to him what pet hates meant.

This is worth a watch

http://www.murraysworld.com/talk/murray-gives-qa-via-youtube-t7182.0.html;msg245381#msg245381[


:D :D :D
 
*** sniggers silently in the corner ***

Stupid jumped-up self-important racist little **** :D

Andy Murray continues to be an excuse making loser would be my prediction. He's won nothing, for a 20 year old he's not physically as fit as he should be and he makes excuses for himself in every game. How many times have we seen him 'pull a sickie' in the middle of a match to excuse the fact he's about to lose? Cramp, dodgy ankle, sprained wrist or just a lack of guts and ability? I know which I think it is. Just remember in all this eulogising over Murray, he's nearly 21 and he's never done anything at the Slams. How old was Becker when he first won Wimbledon?
 

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