Biggest sell out of all time?

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

Johnny Rotten, lead singer of the Sex Pistols and later of Public Image Ltd, and one of the craziest non-establishment anarchist's on the planet, has finally completed his slow descent from punk icon to sell out. Let’s check the evidence, shall we?

http://www.visit4info.com/advert/Johnny-Says-Country-Life-Tastes-the-Best-Country-Life-Butter/63968

 

[MK Shrimper]

He sold out years ago. The reformation of the Pistols, the fact that he own several properties in LA, The Great Rock 'n Roll Swindle.... "Do you ever get the feeling you've been cheated?"

Regardless, The Pistols opened the door for some of the greatest music this country has ever seen and swept away the old guard.

 

[seany t]

I saw that today and said a similar thing to my mate. The Guardian also ran a piece at the weekend about how The Clash are up to similar tricks and reissuing DVD's of gigs they previously swore were rubbish.

Punks eh? Money grabbing *******s...

 

[Firestorm]

The whole Pistols think was manufactured by Mclaren and Vivienne Westwood, it did , however, stimulate numerous others.
IMHO the Pistols just acted as a British Catalyst to the movement started in America as a progression of the glam Rock thing , led primarily by the New York Dolls , but also with the Ramones to the fore.
The Pistols were largely dismissed by the punks quite early on as other bands took up the mantle and actually had something to say as opposed to the Pistols sensationalist shock stance.
has Rotten / Lydon sold out, imho its no as he had nothing to sell out in the first place, its like saying the spice Girls sold out when Posh got married

 

[seany t]

At least we've still got The Buzzcocks! God they were good weren't they?

 

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

IMO....this is where people go wrong who are ground breaking breaths of fresh air. Give up at your peak go away and be remember as a legend who changed the face of your chosen field.

"Faulty Towers" (12 episodes) = Comedy Genius that you can watch time and time again.

"Little Britain" (USA, 3rd series) = Old hat, nothing new, same gags, predictable, boring.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Artistic integrity and money generally don't go hand it hand.

 

[Jedi Shrimper]

The Pistols didn't even sell out when they reformed, they were always about making cash out of mugs, everytime they got signed to a record label they'd deliberately behave so badly the label would pay them to go away, then sign for a bigger fee to another label and so on. Their image was their statement, and their songs did have something to say, but unlike the Clash etc it wasn't a political message. Whether the lyrics were really theirs or Mclaren's is another matter, their songs are littered with references to the Situationists ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situationists ) which were a pet interest of Mclaren.

While the look of the New York Dolls was certainly an ifluence on Mclaren, he did manage them for a time, the punk sound has it's roots more in the Velvet Underground, The Stooges, MC5 & The Ramones. The Brits took it and made it more aggressive then the Yanks took it back and splintered off into No-Wave (NY), Hardcore (midwest) and pop punk (west coast). It was in these genres that the concept of selling out developed.

In short the Pistols couldn't sell out a) because that concept hadn't really surfaced in punk until later. and b) they were always about the filthy lucre.

christ i'm anal.

 

[SUFC_Al]

Metallica.

 

[Blueshrimper]

Countrylife does taste better. I fail to see the problem.

 

[Interpol Shrimper]

Coldplay - goes without saying!!!

Vic Reeves - I mean OK, his career's dried up somewhat since his drink-drive ban, but that Bingo ad he's doing is just plain wrong!

 

[Firestorm]

Ade Edmonson in his latest sit com

 

[Mad Cyril]

How about Ben Elton?

 

[please delete my account]

I always thought when Max Bygraves changed from hard nosed East-End gangster type to that **** p***ing about on family ****ing fortunes, it was one of the biggest and most disgraceful sell outs of the modern era.

The same can be said for Ester Rantzen. One minute a cool, edgy campaigner for consumer rights, the next some clueless old scrote droning on about some **** or other.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

Robert Mugabe. I can't believe he's buying into that coalition nonsense when he won the election fair and square.

 

[Irish_Shrimper]

Nicky Nicolau

 

[Beefy]

IMO....this is where people go wrong who are ground breaking breaths of fresh air. Give up at your peak go away and be remember as a legend who changed the face of your chosen field.

"Faulty Towers" (12 episodes) = Comedy Genius that you can watch time and time again.

"Little Britain" (USA, 3rd series) = Old hat, nothing new, same gags, predictable, boring.

He may have stopped Fawlty Towers in it's prime but that hasn't stopped John Cleese from whoring himself out for cringe-worthy cameo after cringe-worthy cameo to anyone who'll pay his fee.

Artistic integrity is one thing... but people still need to pay the bills.

 

[Aberdeen Shrimper]

He may have stopped Fawlty Towers in it's prime but that hasn't stopped John Cleese from whoring himself out for cringe-worthy cameo after cringe-worthy cameo to anyone who'll pay his fee.

Artistic integrity is one thing... but people still need to pay the bills.

It was more the Programme than the individual for me