Elvis

[ms brush]

I just hope young Elvis is ok, horrible for him. Utterly wrong, and so unfair to anyone, not least one of our young stars who has done everything right and does not deserve to be abused in this way. I hope he knows that 99.9% of people are totally disgusted by this.

 

[misty01]

How well a player played is irrelevant. Racism is wrong full stop.

Absolutely correct MK Shrimper, my fault, just raging about such morons.

 

[SeaSideDoughnut]

It's such a shame to need to ban young fans when the club tries hard to encourage them to become a fan to begin with. But this has no place in society and if it takes being banned from football to learn that now, then so be it.

 

[Massimo Giovanni]

It's such a shame to need to ban young fans when the club tries hard to encourage them to become a fan to begin with. But this has no place in society and if it takes being banned from football to learn that now, then so be it.

They may be young'uns etc BUT they have learn't this racist ****e from someone/somewhere despite all the efforts schools and clubs etc are making to educate and eradicate it. Worrying, shameful and it needs investigating and dealing with properly, not just a telling off/caution but something which will involve the kids and their network being taught a painful lesson, and it staying learnt.

 

[OldBlueLady]

We didn't see where they came from, but they were brought to the stand from pitchside by a steward. I can't see them being Millwall if they weren't put in the away end, which was very well behaved all told. I guess there is a remote possibility they might have been West Ham and confused.

Someone on Twitter reckons there were two adults with them, who sat away from them. I can't comment on that as I didn't see any adults.

When they were removed, I didn't watch what happened as I was more intent on letting Elvis know that us proper supporters encouraged and supported him. Someone else has said that he remained behind at the end, as arranged, to scatter some of his dad's ashes on the pitch and that they were being given a right bollocking by the Old Bill in X block.

 

[rigsby]

The reports on here are confusing. One says East greens, others make it sound like it was in the West.

I never heard anything near the half way line East. But a coupe of heavies did storm up the stairs with response team? on their jackets.

Surely if they were only 12/13 they could of been easily told the error of their ways by nearby fans.

For what its worth I had a chat with a group of young shrimpers on the train at the end of last season on the way back from Rochdale and they came across quite well. One of them had cheekily asked me if I was a trump supporter. They were boisterous and the steward over reacted by asking some of us older fans to baby sit them. I told the steward they would be no bother and they weren't. The line of police waiting on the platform as we arrived back in London was laughable.

 

[MK Shrimper]

Absolutely correct MK Shrimper, my fault, just raging about such morons.

No problem completely understood

 

[OldBlueLady]

@rigsby the incident I refer to was at the front of the West stand, right near the half way line.

 

[RHB]

The reports on here are confusing. One says East greens, others make it sound like it was in the West.

I never heard anything near the half way line East. But a coupe of heavies did storm up the stairs with response team? on their jackets.

Surely if they were only 12/13 they could of been easily told the error of their ways by nearby fans.

For what its worth I had a chat with a group of young shrimpers on the train at the end of last season on the way back from Rochdale and they came across quite well. One of them had cheekily asked me if I was a trump supporter. They were boisterous and the steward over reacted by asking some of us older fans to baby sit them. I told the steward they would be no bother and they weren't. The line of police waiting on the platform as we arrived back in London was laughable.

@rigsby the incident I refer to was at the front of the West stand, right near the half way line.

It's not too confusing. There was an incident in the East Greens and the West Stand. I witnessed the West Stand one, they were kids and incredibly stupid in their actions.

https://www.shrimperzone.com/forums/threads/southend-utd-2-1-millwall-fc.100228/page-2#post-2157151

 

[wivs]

I've already said that they were Millwall fans, I don't know why they were walked round the pitch, possibly because they had tickets for the west? I was definitely told by the security boys that they were Millwall. There was also about 10 Millwall in the east greens who were persuaded to leave at half time.

 

[OldBlueLady]

I've already said that they were Millwall fans, I don't know why they were walked round the pitch, possibly because they had tickets for the west? I was definitely told by the security boys that they were Millwall. There was also about 10 Millwall in the east greens who were persuaded to leave at half time.

That makes no sense at all.

 

[RHB]

It may be that we won't find out where they were from unless the Club releases more information. The important thing is that they were reported to the stewards and they acted pretty quickly to remove the youngsters in the West and whoever it was in the East. Nobody likes to hear the West chanting and if there had been more Southend fans around the lads in the West it would have probably been self policed but it was pretty sparce around them. Maybe Chris Phillips will sniff a story from this and we will be a bit wiser as a result.

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

I'm sure the club can identify the address used to purchase the tickets. If it's a Bermondsey area address, then they are from Millwall. If a local address then Southend. Also, they could send them a letter warning and advising against racial abuse.

 

[MK Shrimper]

I'm sure the club can identify the address used to purchase the tickets. If it's a Bermondsey area address, then they are from Millwall. If a local address then Southend. Also, they could send them a letter warning and advising against racial abuse.

It's not that simple though is it - my address is in MK, so when we play MK would I be classed as "one of them"? They could have just bought tickets at the gate. It's all very odd - regardless of what team you support anywhere in the UK, your team will contain a black player.The national team has the likes of Raheem Stirling and Dele Ali.

 

[Maldon Shrimper]

Article in the Echo by CP states these kids were in the West Stand which suggests they are regrettably from Southend.However I hope that the club can identify them and where ever they are based there not welcome at Roots or anywhere else

 

[rigsby]

Basic rule of any investigation check a fact before it becomes a fact. They can’t be that hard to identify so let’s wait and see who they are.

Either way no matter how old they are that sort of behaviour needs challenging and the club should be leading the way.

 

[RHB]

Article in the Echo by CP states these kids were in the West Stand which suggests they are regrettably from Southend.However I hope that the club can identify them and where ever they are based there not welcome at Roots or anywhere else

Thatnkfully it doesn't suggest anything of the sort. All we know at the moment is that a group of boys were ejected from the stand. Two rows in front of me was a family of mum and dad and two kids. They were definitely from Millwall because they jumped up in the air when the Lions scored and clapped the Millwall subs. Nothing wrong with that, they were well behaved and it was a friendly after all.

 

[GregStarz]

I was sat pretty close to these kids and they were certainly young, although I didn't hear them shout anything racist (as I was a little too far away) I did hear them shout very loud "Ralph Ralph" a couple of times and he did turn around to look at them and carried on, I don't suppose they were Millwall fans as they knew what his name was, but who knows.

There was around 15 of them, the stewards came down and the female stewart pointed in about 5 of their faces "you, you, you, you and you - come with me" so they did and walked up the stairs laughing and giggling, then another 5 ran up the stairs, and then a few more.

I had no idea at the time what they'd done but they certainly didn't seem bothered in getting taken out, the ones who didn't get told to leave all left as well at various times.

Let's hope it wasn't for rasicm, although I do fear the worse with this younger generation these days (not all kids are like it I know) as it's certainly got worse over time.

 

[THE SEVENTIES NORTH BANK]

It's not that simple though is it - my address is in MK, so when we play MK would I be classed as "one of them"? They could have just bought tickets at the gate. It's all very odd - regardless of what team you support anywhere in the UK, your team will contain a black player.The national team has the likes of Raheem Stirling and Dele Ali.

As an adult, there is more chance of you living outside the Southend area. It would be a miracle if these kids didn't live in the Southend or Millwall area. Also, buy at the gate was in the club shop ticket office, and they have to have the address of the person buying tickets, in case of incidents like hooliganism, abuse, throwing flares, etc. So the first thing they ask is your postcode and name and 1st line of address. If already on the system through previous ticket purchase, it's very quick. If not on the system they take your full details and put you on the ticketing system.

 

[MK Shrimper]

As an adult, there is more chance of you living outside the Southend area. It would be a miracle if these kids didn't live in the Southend or Millwall area.

True, but us exiles have to get their own offspring into their team and not the local shower.

Also, buy at the gate was in the club shop ticket office, and they have to have the address of the person buying tickets, in case of incidents like hooliganism, abuse, throwing flares, etc. So the first thing they ask is your postcode and name and 1st line of address. If already on the system through previous ticket purchase, it's very quick. If not on the system they take your full details and put you on the ticketing system.

Didn't know that as I've never bought in shop. Makes sense.