Hockley_Blues
Coach
In about 10 mins they are showing the goals from the hall, and by the looks of it a special feature on Fredy Eastwood!
I'm sure Tilly's on the case already[b said:Quote[/b] (Kent Shrimper @ Oct. 17 2004,12:11)]Fredys certainley getting his Plaudits, i just wish they would shut up about him being on loan
so do i and Fredy even hinted in todays News of the World that he would be interested in a permenant move[b said:Quote[/b] (Hockley_Blues @ Oct. 17 2004,12:14)]I'm sure Tilly's on the case already[b said:Quote[/b] (Kent Shrimper @ Oct. 17 2004,12:11)]Fredys certainley getting his Plaudits, i just wish they would shut up about him being on loan
Anyone else see Ron come on the pitch after the game?[b said:Quote[/b] (RobM. @ Oct. 17 2004,13:45)]Time to produce the cheque book, Ron!
... and my equally biased view is that you are quite right to use that assumption. He will be in a better shop window playing for Southend than most other clubs in League 1 or 2. If Fredy is not too greedy or ambitious and wants to stay local, he'll sign for us, for a decent wage at this level and who knows, may also help us climb up the leagues whilst gaining the all important experience along the way. Another stumbling block though, might be Grays and specifically, what they will want as a fee? if they get too greedy, we'll have problems![b said:Quote[/b] (Einstein @ Oct. 17 2004,12:45)]From a somewhat biased point of view, I don't think it is in Fredy's interests to play at a higher level than us until he can get to grips with league football.
After that I think it could be time to step up a level, and hopefully that will be with us!
Einstein
Was just thinking this morning, that I am sure that both Charlton and Swindon saw more than enough talent in Freddy, but I dont think either side would give him first team football, so he is probably better off with a side like Southend at the minute. If he progresses then he will move onto better things in the future.[b said:Quote[/b] (Technician @ Oct. 17 2004,16:33)]... and my equally biased view is that you are quite right to use that assumption. He will be in a better shop window playing for Southend than most other clubs in League 1 or 2. If Fredy is not too greedy or ambitious and wants to stay local, he'll sign for us, for a decent wage at this level and who knows, may also help us climb up the leagues whilst gaining the all important experience along the way. Another stumbling block though, might be Grays and specifically, what they will want as a fee? if they get too greedy, we'll have problems![b said:Quote[/b] (Einstein @ Oct. 17 2004,12:45)]From a somewhat biased point of view, I don't think it is in Fredy's interests to play at a higher level than us until he can get to grips with league football.
After that I think it could be time to step up a level, and hopefully that will be with us!
Einstein
In Collymore'esque fashion, if he come to us, he may play for ENGLAND one day![b said:Quote[/b] (pboreham @ Oct. 17 2004,16:02)]Was just thinking this morning, that I am sure that both Charlton and Swindon saw more than enough talent in Freddy, but I dont think either side would give him first team football, so he is probably better off with a side like Southend at the minute. If he progresses then he will move onto better things in the future.[b said:Quote[/b] (Technician @ Oct. 17 2004,16:33)]... and my equally biased view is that you are quite right to use that assumption. He will be in a better shop window playing for Southend than most other clubs in League 1 or 2. If Fredy is not too greedy or ambitious and wants to stay local, he'll sign for us, for a decent wage at this level and who knows, may also help us climb up the leagues whilst gaining the all important experience along the way. Another stumbling block though, might be Grays and specifically, what they will want as a fee? if they get too greedy, we'll have problems![b said:Quote[/b] (Einstein @ Oct. 17 2004,12:45)]From a somewhat biased point of view, I don't think it is in Fredy's interests to play at a higher level than us until he can get to grips with league football.
After that I think it could be time to step up a level, and hopefully that will be with us!
Einstein
Apparantly, Paul Bodin was at the game scouting for Swindon, but they already have 2 excellent strikers, so why would Eastwood want to go there and play in the reserves?!
Exactly, Tilly said they wanted silly money in the summer and then they said before the loan only a minimal fee. Depends if they decide to change their mind again quickly! I think the minimal fee will certainly raise slightly though for sheer business sense in Grays eyes.[b said:Quote[/b] (Technician @ Oct. 17 2004,16:33)]... and my equally biased view is that you are quite right to use that assumption. He will be in a better shop window playing for Southend than most other clubs in League 1 or 2. If Fredy is not too greedy or ambitious and wants to stay local, he'll sign for us, for a decent wage at this level and who knows, may also help us climb up the leagues whilst gaining the all important experience along the way. Another stumbling block though, might be Grays and specifically, what they will want as a fee? if they get too greedy, we'll have problems![b said:Quote[/b] (Einstein @ Oct. 17 2004,12:45)]From a somewhat biased point of view, I don't think it is in Fredy's interests to play at a higher level than us until he can get to grips with league football.
After that I think it could be time to step up a level, and hopefully that will be with us!
Einstein
... but if they keep it to the figure quoted with a sell on clause rather than be greedy now, they will benefit in the long run! it'll be almost like a savings account![b said:Quote[/b] (Einstein @ Oct. 17 2004,16:23)]Exactly, Tilly said they wanted silly money in the summer and then they said before the loan only a minimal fee. Depends if they decide to change their mind again quickly! I think the minimal fee will certainly raise slightly though for sheer business sense in Grays eyes.[b said:Quote[/b] (Technician @ Oct. 17 2004,16:33)]... and my equally biased view is that you are quite right to use that assumption. He will be in a better shop window playing for Southend than most other clubs in League 1 or 2. If Fredy is not too greedy or ambitious and wants to stay local, he'll sign for us, for a decent wage at this level and who knows, may also help us climb up the leagues whilst gaining the all important experience along the way. Another stumbling block though, might be Grays and specifically, what they will want as a fee? if they get too greedy, we'll have problems![b said:Quote[/b] (Einstein @ Oct. 17 2004,12:45)]From a somewhat biased point of view, I don't think it is in Fredy's interests to play at a higher level than us until he can get to grips with league football.
After that I think it could be time to step up a level, and hopefully that will be with us!
Einstein
I think it would be wrong to sign him for 3-4 years as much as it would be stupid to sign him until the end of the season and then lose him to the fat judas from Peterborough. A 2 year contract with a review clause at the end of the season would be the better option. I don't think even the management have a 3-4 year term and it's not really necessary TBH.[b said:Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Oct. 17 2004,16:47)]If he does sign then i believe we have to take the chance of putting him on a long term deal, 3-4 years sorta thing. Because what we can't do is lose a good young player on a free. Fredy seems to have showed a great deal of promise and as someone said he could be the difference between playing in this league and league 1.
P.S I think Grays could up the fee but at the end of the day the real money could be on a sell on clause, his much more in the shop window here than at the Rec.
Gotta agree, 2 year contract with an extension would work best for all concerned[b said:Quote[/b] (Technician @ Oct. 17 2004,18:18)]I think it would be wrong to sign him for 3-4 years as much as it would be stupid to sign him until the end of the season and then lose him to the fat judas from Peterborough. A 2 year contract with a review clause at the end of the season would be the better option. I don't think even the management have a 3-4 year term and it's not really necessary TBH.[b said:Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Oct. 17 2004,16:47)]If he does sign then i believe we have to take the chance of putting him on a long term deal, 3-4 years sorta thing. Because what we can't do is lose a good young player on a free. Fredy seems to have showed a great deal of promise and as someone said he could be the difference between playing in this league and league 1.
P.S I think Grays could up the fee but at the end of the day the real money could be on a sell on clause, his much more in the shop window here than at the Rec.
He's still got a few years before he is 24 and under the bosman ruling I believe would not be able to leave for free until then![b said:Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Oct. 17 2004,17:47)]Because what we can't do is lose a good young player on a free.
But if it goes into a tribunal then we could be done out of thousands.[b said:Quote[/b] (Einstein @ Oct. 17 2004,20:23)]He's still got a few years before he is 24 and under the bosman ruling I believe would not be able to leave for free until then![b said:Quote[/b] (footymad13 @ Oct. 17 2004,17:47)]Because what we can't do is lose a good young player on a free.
[b said:Quote[/b] (Technician @ Oct. 17 2004,18:18)]I was thinking of that already.I think it would be wrong to sign him for 3-4 years as much as it would be stupid to sign him until the end of the season and then lose him to the fat judas from Peterborough.
Any sensible businessman would take the money while he could. He would not gamble on a clause that 'might' come off. There will obviously be some kind of clause in the deal, but he will want hard cash as well as a guarantee.[b said:Quote[/b] (Technician @ Oct. 17 2004,17:37)]... but if they keep it to the figure quoted with a sell on clause rather than be greedy now, they will benefit in the long run! it'll be almost like a savings account![b said:Quote[/b] (Einstein @ Oct. 17 2004,16:23)]Exactly, Tilly said they wanted silly money in the summer and then they said before the loan only a minimal fee. Depends if they decide to change their mind again quickly! I think the minimal fee will certainly raise slightly though for sheer business sense in Grays eyes.[b said:Quote[/b] (Technician @ Oct. 17 2004,16:33)]... and my equally biased view is that you are quite right to use that assumption. He will be in a better shop window playing for Southend than most other clubs in League 1 or 2. If Fredy is not too greedy or ambitious and wants to stay local, he'll sign for us, for a decent wage at this level and who knows, may also help us climb up the leagues whilst gaining the all important experience along the way. Another stumbling block though, might be Grays and specifically, what they will want as a fee? if they get too greedy, we'll have problems![b said:Quote[/b] (Einstein @ Oct. 17 2004,12:45)]From a somewhat biased point of view, I don't think it is in Fredy's interests to play at a higher level than us until he can get to grips with league football.
After that I think it could be time to step up a level, and hopefully that will be with us!
Einstein