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Heat 1 Round 6 - Chris Eubank v William Shakespeare

Chris Eubank (Desert Shrimper) v William Shakespeare (Matt the Shrimp)


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Chris Eubank - Desert Shrimper

v

Matt the Shrimp - William Shakespeare

The boxer, versus the writer.

Now, Desert Shrimper is away, so I will fight his corner.
 
Eubank:

Eubank (born Christopher Livingstone Eubanks on 8 August 1966) is a retired boxer and British celebrity who held the WBO Middleweight and Super Middleweight titles. He was world champion for over five years and undefeated as a middleweight.

Christopher Livingstone Eubanks (later opting to delete the 's' from his surname) was born on 8 August, 1966, in Dulwich, London and spent his early days in Jamaica (from two months old to six years old). On his return, he lived in Stoke Newington, Dalston, Hackney and then Peckham. He grew up in poverty.

Chris attended Bellingden Junior School, and then Thomas Carlton Secondary School from where he was suspended eighteen times in one year and then expelled, despite trying to protect other children from bullies[citation needed]. He then attended Peckham Manor School, from where he was suspended five times in four weeks and then also expelled for the same reason. Chris was then put into care and spent time in various institutions under the care of Social Services.

His mother had left for New York when he was eight years old. At the age of 16, his father sent him to New York to live with his mother in the South Bronx.


[edit] Boxing career
Eubank made a fresh start in the South Bronx, quitting alcohol and marijuana, attending church and studying at Morris High School (he graduated in the summer of 1986). In his spare time he trained at the Jerome Boxing Club on Westchester Avenue (his older brothers, Peter and Simon, who were twins, were both boxers back in Peckham). Eubank became obsessed with trying to improve his skills at the boxing gym and trained seven days a week, becoming an amateur boxer and winning the 1984 New York Spanish Golden Gloves. He then reached the semi-finals of the 1985 New York Daily News Golden Gloves at Madison Square Garden, which is where his reputation for controversy began as he hit the headlines for the wrong reasons after biting his opponent's shoulder.

He writes in his autobiography that his drive to succeed in boxing came through his drive to become an accepted individual.

He made his professional debut at the Atlantis Hotel against Timmy Brown, shortly after his 19th birthday. It was an eye-catching display, the young man vaulting the top rope and showing agility, skill and power. He won over four rounds on points, and four more four-rounders followed (all in Atlantic City) with four more points wins. He finally returned to the UK in January 1988, making Brighton (where his brothers Peter and Simon had settled) his adopted home. He became obsessed with becoming a world champion. In October 1988, with ten professional victories and no defeats, Eubank first started calling out Nigel Benn, and they would become arch-rivals.

In 1990 he beat highly rated Brazilian Reginaldo Dos Santos in 20 seconds to win an inter-continental title and a world title shot, then won the WBO world middleweight title against Nigel Benn in a classic encounter that was later released on DVD. Eubank would defend the title successfully against Dan Sherry, Gary Stretch and finally in an excellent match with Michael Watson. This concluded Eubank's career as a middleweight, with a 28-0 record.

A rematch with Watson took place in September 1991 at which Watson suffered a near-fatal injury. Eubank was behind on all scorecards when he rose from the canvas at the end of the 11th round to unleash a devastating uppercut to Watson's jaw. Early in the 12th, Watson collapsed. Commentator Reg Gutteridge claimed he had; "never seen a more dramatic end to a world title fight".

Now the holder of a second a second title, the WBO world super-middleweight championship. Eubank relinquished his middleweight title and concentrated on defending his new crown at the higher weight of 12st to which he was more suited. Eubank never again showed any desire to knock opponents out, preferring to retain his title through points victories.

Nigel Benn moved up to super-middleweight and became WBC champion. The pair agreed to meet in a WBC/WBO unification rematch. In 1993 the rivals would engage in another contest named 'Judgement Day' and, watched by millions, fought thrillingly to a draw.

Eubank, despite losing his 'killer instinct' after the Watson tragedy, continued to box and claim scalps. He beat former IBF world super-middleweight and future WBC world light-heavyweight champion Graciano Rocchigiani in Berlin. He also defeated former IBF world super-middleweight king Lindell Holmes, two-time WBC world super-middleweight champion "Sugarboy" Malinga, European champion Ray Close and American champion Ron Esset.

His final appearance in a title fight resulted in a loss on points to Joe Calzaghe who acknowledged that the 12-round fight was one of the toughest in his career. After two failures in 'come-back' bouts, Eubank quit the ring with a creditable record of 45 wins and 5 losses.

Career outside of boxing
Away from boxing, Eubank comes across as an eccentric. He speaks with a lisp and in upper-class tones, dresses as a stereotypically upper-class Englishman (in jodhpurs, bowler hat and riding boots, and famously sports a monocle), drives unusual vehicles (including a customised Harley Davidson and a huge American Peterbilt 379 truck cab which is the largest truck in Europe) and carries a cane. At one time he owned the only Hummer in the British Isles.[1]

In 1991 and 1993 he won the Britain's Best Dressed Man award, given by the Menswear Association of Great Britain. In 1998 and 2001 he won the Gold Tie Pin Award. In 1993 and 1995 he won the Daily Express Best Dressed Sportsman award. Also in 1993 he was awarded 'Best Capped Head' as well as 'Best Kept Hair'.

In 1994 he took over a prime site in the Brighton area, which he called 'Buckingham Place'. He knocked down the building keeping the grade II façade intact and building 69 flats for the homeless, using £1,250,000 of his own money. The building was leased to the charity Sanctuary Housing Association with the lowest rents in the country. The Prince of Wales's architect Dominic Richards was impressed with the project and they have discussed carrying out a similar one in London.

He featured on the front cover of Esquire magazine, April 1992 edition, and did a photoshoot for Esquire for the May 1992 edition. According to Rosie Boycott, sales of Esquire went up by 76% when Eubank was on the front cover.

In 1996, he was the guest presenter on Top of the Pops the week Suggs from Madness was at number six with a song called Cecilia; this was a move apparently made to capitalise on his minor speech impediment for humorous effect. The video of a boxer with a lisp saying 'Six, Cecilia, by Suggs' was shown on programmes such as Never Mind the Buzzcocks for a long time afterwards.

In a poll published by BBC Homes and Antiques magazine in January 2006, Eubank was voted the second most eccentric star (after Björk). In the same year he was voted third in a Readers Digest poll of Britain’s Silliest Celebrities.

He has purchased the title of the Lord of the Manor of Brighton. He has used the ancient right of this position to appoint a town crier, Margaret Pracey, who operates in addition to a paid town crier employed by the local authority.

His hobbies include speaking, teaching, philosophy, reading quotations, fashion, dancing, poetry, driving around in his truck, and fighting (mentally and physically) legally.

Eubank claimed in 2007 that his total income in the previous 17 years was £35,000,000 gross, including all sponsorships and endorsements.


Anti-war activism
On Tuesday, 14 October 2003 Eubank was intercepted by police whilst driving around Parliament Square, Westminster, in his truck, which displayed the message "TONY BLAIR! MILITARY OCCUPATION CAUSES TERRORISM". He completed a number of circuits before he was arrested and led handcuffed into a police van.
 
I've got to admit, I am not a great fan of the 'copying and pasting from wikipedia' approach. It's not that readable, and easy to read on wikipedia! :)
 
Whenever I have been forced to read or watch Shakespear I have been bored and irritated to the point of dispair.

I am convinced people only read/watch Shakespear because they think they should be enjoying it. The only satisfaction gained is a smug sense of intellectual superiority.

There, I've said it.
 
Can't say I'm a lover of Shakespeare and I've never sat through any of his plays, but he invented huge amounts of words and phrases that we use today.

However, I love Forbidden Planet and West Side Story so Shakey gets my vote.
 
I've enjoyed Shakespeares work and seen a couple of plays which I enjoyed. His social commentary and satire has resonance today and he invented tons of cool words. Eubank is entertaining, but not a hero.
 
Can't say I'm a lover of Shakespeare and I've never sat through any of his plays, but he invented huge amounts of words and phrases that we use today.

However, I love Forbidden Planet and West Side Story so Shakey gets my vote.

Shakespeare was a plagiarist. Richard III, Julius Caesar - they were hardly original ideas. I'm certain he wasn't the first to come up with the premise behind Romeo and Juliet either, he'd have almost certainly adapted it.

The humour in his so-called comedies is appalling as well.

I can't believe everyone is voting for him when they couldn't bare to sit through one his works.
 
I've enjoyed Shakespeares work and seen a couple of plays which I enjoyed. His social commentary and satire has resonance today and he invented tons of cool words. Eubank is entertaining, but not a hero.

Eubank went to jail for his beliefs. What did Shakespeare do?
 
Whenever I have been forced to read or watch Shakespear I have been bored and irritated to the point of dispair.

I am convinced people only read/watch Shakespear because they think they should be enjoying it. The only satisfaction gained is a smug sense of intellectual superiority.

There, I've said it.

Bet the clique read a lot of the Bards work then.
 
Shakespeare's work was probably very interesting at the time of writing, much like the bible.

Eubank is a complete tool, but for the comedy value of his appearances on 'they think it's all over', he gets my vote.
 
Enjoyed watching some epic Eubank fights.. Great boxer.. Never read anything by the Bard.. I thought only American kids had to endure this these days.. That said Eu was a complete toss pot and he had an irritating voice.. now I'm sure the Bard vexed a few people in his time but it wasn't on mainstream T.V. so im voting for him..
 
Have to say, based on the evidence of this thread so far, Eubank is ahead on points. Unless The Bard can come back with a knock out blow, it will be Eubank who gets my vote. Plus he is the only one of the two Ive seen in person at the pic n mix counter at the cinema.....
 
Eubanks for me, only as I know someone at work who likes to quote random passages from Shakespeare's plays at random times and thinks it's really intelligent to do so. No- it only proves you have a good memory and is really annoying.

Also, would True Blue have voted for Shakespeare if he wasnt Bard.
:tumbleweed:

(I think that jokes been about the same time as Will and is just as unfunny. Apologies.)
 
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