• Welcome to the ShrimperZone forums.
    You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which only gives you limited access.

    Existing Users:.
    Please log-in using your existing username and password. If you have any problems, please see below.

    New Users:
    Join our free community now and gain access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and free. Click here to join.

    Fans from other clubs
    We welcome and appreciate supporters from other clubs who wish to engage in sensible discussion. Please feel free to join as above but understand that this is a moderated site and those who cannot play nicely will be quickly removed.

    Assistance Required
    For help with the registration process or accessing your account, please send a note using the Contact us link in the footer, please include your account name. We can then provide you with a new password and verification to get you on the site.


I'm a Gnu, how do you do!⭐⭐
Staff member
Aug 14, 2009
Westcliff riviera
There is always a lot of talk about the number of points needed for Southend not to end up in the bottom 4 at the end of the season. 50 points appears to be the bench mark but I've never truly known why. Is that figure based on previous seasons stats, or have there been clubs relegated recently having reached that total?

Points experts, what's our bottom line for another season in FL1?
Get the median value of the points gained by the last relegated teams from the last 10 years.
For me it's 55 points, as we have been relegated before after securing 54 points. Granted not really recent though. It was back in the late 80's.
Get the median value of the points gained by the last relegated team. Find me the data and I'll do it.
49 points last season and a better than -25 goal difference would have been enough last season.
46 points and a better goal difference than -16 enough in 2015/6
50 points and a better goal difference than -18 enough in 2014/5

Right somebody else carry on.
Yep, I'd say 3 more wins, so 54 points.

That said, with only 4 home games left and some tricky away visits, including sides on a roll like Blackburn and Plymouth, I'd say we shouldn't count too many chickens just yet.
Or the same points with a better goal difference.

That scenario won't happen

No it probably won't happen. But it can happen remember 1989 when we were relegated on goal difference.

So it didn't happen in 1989 (we were actually relegated) and, as stated, it won't happen this year.

For us to be overtaken by 8 teams our goal difference, already poor, would become significantly worse and most of the teams overtaking us would be improving theirs.

I know a couple of freak results could skew that logic, but in reality if it comes down to goal difference (which I don't think for a minute it will) we've had it !
What is the point in this post? There is more chance of playoffs then relegation!! We have taken 10 points from the last 15 is that relegation form? I just dont get the negativity !! Think positive and upwards
Anyone wanting an antidote to fear-of-the-drop may be interested to know that if we win tonight we should be closer in points to the playoffs than to the drop. 48 points is currently 10 (or 9 with GD) clear of the drop, and 6 (or 7) shy of the playoffs. If Peterborough win at Bury the playoff gap does worsen. Even so, and taking our ugly goal difference into account, a win for us tonight puts us 9 points away in either direction from clubs currently in the danger and salivation zones. UTB.