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John Gowens

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BoyWonder2 said:
Hopefully not. Could do without his “diagnosis” and “healing hands”.

Would love to see Clarkson return under our new ownership.
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To be fair, he came in when no one else would, so we have to be thankful.

However, we can do so much better. Let’s just say, under a different physio, some of our injured players under his guidance, would have returned to the pitch a lot quicker. They certainly would have been treated for the right injury…
 
BoyWonder2 said:
Probably.

I’d be filing it under “potentially” rather than writing it off altogether though. He is a Shrimper and RM played a huge reason in why he left, 99% of it, removing RM might open the door. Depends if we want/need him.
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Agreed, i'm a good friend of his Dad. His a great addition to who employs him, plus IF he ever returned to us, his travelling time would be greatly reduced.
 
BoyWonder2 said:
To be fair, he came in when no one else would, so we have to be thankful.

However, we can do so much better. Let’s just say, under a different physio, some of our injured players under his guidance, would have returned to the pitch a lot quicker. They certainly would have been treated for the right injury…
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I’m not intending to criticise - and although I’m replying to your post @BoyWonder2 this is meant as a general thought for everyone - but I am a little uncomfortable with some of the suggestions being made.

There’s some fairly hefty suggestions in this thread about an individual’s performance and competence in their job. He’s not here to defend himself and clearly not many of the rest of us on SZ will have any insight. He may have a very different view on some or all of these inferences.

I’m sure the club know better than anyone what the situation is. Fair enough to say we’re not impressed or we think the medical team could be improved but the more personal stuff probably better left out?
 
Spaceman Spiff said:
I’m not intending to criticise - and although I’m replying to your post @BoyWonder2 this is meant as a general thought for everyone - but I am a little uncomfortable with some of the suggestions being made.

There’s some fairly hefty suggestions in this thread about an individual’s performance and competence in their job. He’s not here to defend himself and clearly not many of the rest of us on SZ will have any insight. He may have a very different view on some or all of these inferences.

I’m sure the club know better than anyone what the situation is. Fair enough to say we’re not impressed or we think the medical team could be improved but the more personal stuff probably better left out?
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100% agreed.
 
Spaceman Spiff said:
I’m not intending to criticise - and although I’m replying to your post @BoyWonder2 this is meant as a general thought for everyone - but I am a little uncomfortable with some of the suggestions being made.

There’s some fairly hefty suggestions in this thread about an individual’s performance and competence in their job. He’s not here to defend himself and clearly not many of the rest of us on SZ will have any insight. He may have a very different view on some or all of these inferences.

I’m sure the club know better than anyone what the situation is. Fair enough to say we’re not impressed or we think the medical team could be improved but the more personal stuff probably better left out?
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Agreed...is it leave Stan alone and find another target week??

Pull together folks, the NL are doing their best to kill us!
 
Spaceman Spiff said:
I’m not intending to criticise - and although I’m replying to your post @BoyWonder2 this is meant as a general thought for everyone - but I am a little uncomfortable with some of the suggestions being made.

There’s some fairly hefty suggestions in this thread about an individual’s performance and competence in their job. He’s not here to defend himself and clearly not many of the rest of us on SZ will have any insight. He may have a very different view on some or all of these inferences.

I’m sure the club know better than anyone what the situation is. Fair enough to say we’re not impressed or we think the medical team could be improved but the more personal stuff probably better left out?
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I don’t think I’ve been overly personal here in what I’ve said.

We had been without a physio for years, if people remember we advertised the position on our website before also. No one wanted the position, as John said he came back due to his connections and had been asked numerous times, so I don’t feel like the Club have been able to be particularly picky with the physio.

As I say, fair play, he has come back when no one else would due the job, but we can do better.

I feel like more personal stuff has been said when criticising players, managers and other backroom staff, but that’s just me…
 
Blues ‘n’ twos said:
Agreed...is it leave Stan alone and find another target week??

Pull together folks, the NL are doing their best to kill us!
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Don’t be daft.

I’ve always laughed when people have blamed TL/Stan/Board of directors/ITK/Crate/Kimura and so on during this whole episode.

I’m commenting, with knowledge, on stuff that has happened both this time around, and before. Check the thread when he was reappointed and look at the comments.

This isn’t a witch hunt, this isn’t shifting blame onto someone other than RM, this isn’t anything like that.
 
BoyWonder2 said:
To be fair, he came in when no one else would, so we have to be thankful.

However, we can do so much better. Let’s just say, under a different physio, some of our injured players under his guidance, would have returned to the pitch a lot quicker. They certainly would have been treated for the right injury…
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That's not unique to us. Club physios are generally not that great.

I've mentioned this before but my wife (who retired as a physio yesterday after 30 years) has in the past treated international footballers who have come to her on the sly because they weren't impressed with the treatment at their club. If the club found out they would have been in trouble.

Obviously, because of patient confidentiality she doesn't say too much, but one of them had been out for 3 months and wasn't getting any better so he went to her. It took her 5 minutes to work out the injury had been mis-diagnosed. She had him better in 3 weeks.

I looked on his club's forum to find them all berating him for "hiding" behind his injury so he didn't have to play in a team that was underperforming. If only they knew it was the physio that was underperforming.

It's also important to point out that John Gowens isn't a physio and is not allowed to call himself one. He's a sports injury therapist (I think). His degree is not in physiotherapy. However, his qualification should actually make him more suited to the role.
 
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londonblue said:
That's not unique to us. Club physios are generally not that great.

I've mentioned this before buy my wife (who retired as a physio yesterday after 30 years) has in the past treated international footballers who have come to her on the sly because they weren't impressed with the treatment at their club. If the club found out they would have been in trouble.

Obviously, because of patient confidentiality she doesn't say too much, but one of them had been out for 3 months and wasn't getting any better so he went to her. It took her 5 minutes to work out the injury had been mis-diagnosed. She had him better in 3 weeks.

I looked on his club's forum to find them all berating him for "hiding" behind his injury so he didn't have to play in a team that was underperforming. If only they knew it was the physio that was underperforming.

It's also important to point out that John Gowens isn't a physio and is not allowed to call himself one. He's a sports injury therapist (I think). His degree is not in physiotherapy. However, his qualification should actually make him more suited to the role.
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Of course not, but I’m just commenting on ours.

I can’t comment on others, other than the physio I’ve used previously with hamstring, knee and back troubles previously.
 
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