Echo News Southend United in talks with at least three managerial candidates

[Ricey]

He applied. But didn’t get an interview, as per the tweet.

Wouldn’t we need to seek permission from Bristol Rovers to speak to him?

 

[camden shrimper]

I'm as guilty as anyone of feeling a prospective manager is more desirable because of their 'contacts' but have any of them really pulled favours at old clubs for decent loanees etc.? Happy to be shot down of course!

 

[kentblues]

I'm as guilty as anyone of feeling a prospective manager is more desirable because of their 'contacts' but have any of them really pulled favours at old clubs for decent loanees etc.? Happy to be shot down of course!

Rarely- remember all the great loanees PB was going to get from Big Sam? Its's very overplayed.

 

[Micky]

I just don’t get the Tilson thing. He’s been out of the pro game for so long now, things have moved on, he won’t have the vital contacts within the game, etc etc. And let’s be honest he only had one successful managerial stint, with us. Lightening rarely strikes twice. He should stay a club legend from the past and not taint his legacy.

I couldn't agree more. He is a club legend but he's yesterday's man. We really need to move forward.

 

[pete boss]

boys need to get training now! come on Ron..get Tilly in place and away we go!

 

[Austin the Shrimper]

Best case scenario has to be, keep Fagan on as Assistant, Bring in Currie as manager and Tilson another assistant. Everyone’s happy?

 

[Austin the Shrimper]

Peter Taylor - Director of football

 

[geoffmundo]

Wouldn’t we need to seek permission from Bristol Rovers to speak to him?

and presumably compensation if we wanted to appoint...?

 

[Ricey]

and presumably compensation if we wanted to appoint...?

Exactly! I don’t think we didn’t give him an interview because he’s not who we want.

 

[tottenham541]

Ron didn’t fight to keep him here so he more than likely isn’t interested in getting him back, one day he’ll come back tho for sure

 

[stewart]

3 I think would be Fagan , Currie and Reid ,any of that 3 i would be happy with .Cannot understand this Tilson love ,yes he took us to championship ,he also took us back to the basement .Did sod all at Lincoln and have his ladies team set the world on fire. He is our past move on. Remember him as a player and club legend let it not be tainted like CPs was .We need a young eager manager now as the team will be very young itself and times dictate that for the present.

 

[Westcliff DGS]

Hasn’t CP tweeted that t is Fagan, Currie and Tilson

 

[BlueBore]

I'm as guilty as anyone of feeling a prospective manager is more desirable because of their 'contacts' but have any of them really pulled favours at old clubs for decent loanees etc.? Happy to be shot down of course!

I think the primary positive example of this has to be Sturrock right, who built the backbone of a squad from previous contacts. However, that was exceptional and I'm struggling to think of other examples.

I agree in principle though that it's an overrated attribute, after all isn't that what scouts are for?
That said, good familiarity with the divisions/level you'll be playing at and the players who will be in the market is definitely useful

 

[overseas shrimper]

3 I think would be Fagan , Currie and Reid ,any of that 3 i would be happy with .Cannot understand this Tilson love ,yes he took us to championship ,he also took us back to the basement .Did sod all at Lincoln and have his ladies team set the world on fire. He is our past move on. Remember him as a player and club legend let it not be tainted like CPs was .We need a young eager manager now as the team will be very young itself and times dictate that for the present.

Whilst I agree that Tilson wouldn't be appropriate now (and his success owes a lot to Brush as a great no. 2), I think it is extremely harsh to blame him for our downward spiral during his time as our manager. Did you take all the facts into consideration and what was happening at the club?

Same for Lincoln. He and Brush walked into a hopeless cause (hope that whoever becomes our next manager isn't coming into a similar situation).

Having said this, if Tilly is given a 2nd stint, I'll get fully behind him.

 

[WESTY_SUFC]

I just don’t get the Tilson thing. He’s been out of the pro game for so long now, things have moved on, he won’t have the vital contacts within the game, etc etc. And let’s be honest he only had one successful managerial stint, with us. Lightening rarely strikes twice. He should stay a club legend from the past and not taint his legacy.

I bet you were furious when Sol and Bond were appointed then. Both had breaks in football and neither had any real success as managers.

Who's on your list to choose from? Pep or Klopp?

 

[overseas shrimper]

I bet you were furious when Sol and Bond were appointed then. Both had breaks in football and neither had any real success as managers.

Who's on your list to choose from? Pep or Klopp?

Eddie Howe's become available.

 

[Westcliff DGS]

Whilst I agree that Tilson wouldn't be appropriate now (and his success owes a lot to Brush as a great no. 2), I think it is extremely harsh to blame him for our downward spiral during his time as our manager. Did you take all the facts into consideration and what was happening at the club?

Same for Lincoln. He and Brush walked into a hopeless cause (hope that whoever becomes our next manager isn't coming into a similar situation).

Having said this, if Tilly is given a 2nd stint, I'll get fully behind him.

I would be behind any manager too, I support the blues doesn’t matter who is in charge.

TIlson though would not be a progressive appointment, he had succes where but the game has moved on. As a number 2 or an advisor maybe but as the manager i do think it would be wrong this time, there is a need for a really fresh approach within the club, now is the time to take that and rebuild, a young manager is what is required in my mind.

 

[Rob1920]

I bet you were furious when Sol and Bond were appointed then. Both had breaks in football and neither had any real success as managers.

Who's on your list to choose from? Pep or Klopp?

Sol had just done ok at a club in a similar state to ours, and much as I was as ‘thrilled’ as anyone about Bond he had at least been coaching at a pro level. Tilly’s done nothing for years. I love the bloke as much as anyone but those days are gone. As for the pointless Pep or Klopp comment,I was thinking more along the lines of Fagan, Maher, Currie or Reid, all of whom are at least involved in the pro game and tick a lot more boxes than Tilly.

 

[onceknownasrab]

I don't quite understand the negativity about Tilson. As much as I prefer not to reach into our past for an appointment, the reasons cited by most, seem to question his ability to understand the modern game. When he was first managing us he was new, raw, lacked experience and probably made good use of Brush for his shortcomings. However, he was respected and passionate. A rare combination. Equally, I can't believe that in the subsequent years he has not progressed his views on the way the game is played. He needed to learn and maybe he has. He has certainly seen a lot of football from the stands and I firmly believe that is often more useful than seeing it from the dugout.

 

[Westcliff DGS]

I don't quite understand the negativity about Tilson. As much as I prefer not to reach into our past for an appointment, the reasons cited by most, seem to question his ability to understand the modern game. When he was first managing us he was new, raw, lacked experience and probably made good use of Brush for his shortcomings. However, he was respected and passionate. A rare combination. Equally, I can't believe that in the subsequent years he has not progressed his views on the way the game is played. He needed to learn and maybe he has. He has certainly seen a lot of football from the stands and I firmly believe that is often more useful than seeing it from the dugout.

It’s not understand the modern game it is dealing with how the game has progressed off the pitch as well, p[layer snow have far more power than ever before, and that also impacts on how people manage. CLiques get formed and they are either great or not so great when things go wrong.

As for watching from the stands I have done a lot of that too but wouldn’t profess to being able to manage a club base don that being better than sitting in the dugout (I know your not just saying that criteria but for me it doesn’t come into the equation)