Supporters Group News Supporters' groups statement 21/09/23 - Justin Rees' statement and this weekend's protest plans

[GBJ]

It is not about blame. It is about people in positions of responsibility closely connected to the club who might just have the finances to resolve some of the short term issues.

Word on the street is, FVW has been doing that for years and is currently owed more than HMRC, NPower and Emersons put together.

 

[TheSouthendUnitedRunner]

It is not about blame. It is about people in positions of responsibility closely connected to the club who might just have the finances to resolve some of the short term issues.
For god’s sake WE are all being asked to join the trust, go on protest marches etc, but we have to tiptoe around our board of directors who might be able to make a tangible difference.

We don’t have to tiptoe around them, but RM is the enemy here, not the directors who have put in plenty of money to the Club.

You’re wasting time throwing blame at everyone, when everything is done to one individual.

 

[Benfleet A1]

Don't you sometimes wish that you had followed along with your school mates who supported 'big' clubs, or started going to matches of the local team where you ended up moving to? Some way to avoid all this horror and tension?

No, me neither.

Hell no, I was warped enough without going down that road.

 

[Stuart W]

We don’t have to tiptoe around them, but RM is the enemy here, not the directors who have put in plenty of money to the Club.

You’re wasting time throwing blame at everyone, when everything is done to one individual.

For the nth time, I am not blaming the other directors. I am just suggesting that they can actually do something constructive and practical.
You just go ahead chucking rats on the pitch then, I’m sure that will do the trick.

 

[londonblue]

We don’t have to tiptoe around them, but RM is the enemy here, not the directors who have put in plenty of money to the Club.

You’re wasting time throwing blame at everyone, when everything is done to one individual.

It's also the case that any one of them could have forced administration years ago given how much they are owed. None of them have because they do actually care about the club.

Ron does too, but only in his words, not his deeds.

 

[londonblue]

For the nth time, I am not blaming the other directors. I am just suggesting that they can actually do something constructive and practical.
You just go ahead chucking rats on the pitch then, I’m sure that will do the trick.

That's a bit vague. What do you have in mind for them?

 

[Stuart W]

That's a bit vague. What do you have in mind for them?

Perhaps continue doing what they have supposedly been doing over the years. The difference now is that there is light at the end of the tunnel, but a deal will not be done in time for October 4th. Surely people can see that one final contribution from two very rich people could make all the difference here. But if you all think that personal abuse, demos, marches etc will have the desired effect, then I can’t be arsed to try to change your minds.

 

[TheSouthendUnitedRunner]

For the nth time, I am not blaming the other directors. I am just suggesting that they can actually do something constructive and practical.
You just go ahead chucking rats on the pitch then, I’m sure that will do the trick.

The board of directors are owed well over a million pounds from their contributions to the Club to help us out. TL is owed a small fortune too. Without some of them, games would have been called off last season.

Kev & co have helped players out financially too.

The only one that isn’t helping out, and who has the means to do so, is RM.

 

[Stuart W]

The board of directors are owed well over a million pounds from their contributions to the Club to help us out. TL is owed a small fortune too. Without some of them, games would have been called off last season.

Kev & co have helped players out financially too.

The only one that isn’t helping out, and who has the means to do so, is RM.

Like I just said, it will only need one more contribution to get us through before October 4th. I am confident a deal will be struck after this. And, just to point out, considering the net worth of one particular director, £1 million is small change.

 

[GBJ]

Like I just said, it will only need one more contribution to get us through before October 4th.

And therein lies the problem. It’s always just one more. One last handout. One last get out of jail free card. Ron’s got away with it for years, and that dates back to Tara’s days here.

I get your point, I really do, I would love to see FVW or anyone else for that matter, step in and save us.

But your idea of “one more contribution” was used (and abused) years ago.

 

[Stuart W]

And therein lies the problem. It’s always just one more. One last handout. One last get out of jail free card. Ron’s got away with it for years, and that dates back to Tara’s days here.

I get your point, I really do, I would love to see FVW or anyone else for that matter, step in and save us.

But your idea of “one more contribution” was used (and abused) years ago.

That’s fine. But please run me past how effective all of these protests have been?
It is like pricking an elephant with a pin. All it does is make fans feel good. In reality it is getting us nowhere. Time for practical solutions. I have come up with one. As usual SZ finds reasons why this won’t work. Next suggestion please, and by the way it is 12 days and counting.

 

[TheSouthendUnitedRunner]

Like I just said, it will only need one more contribution to get us through before October 4th. I am confident a deal will be struck after this. And, just to point out, considering the net worth of one particular director, £1 million is small change.

One more, one more.

People have been giving RM “one more contribution” for years now. Eventually, you stop doing one more…

 

[Leeboy]

One more, one more.

People have been giving RM “one more contribution” for years now. Eventually, you stop doing one more…

please correct me if I'm wrong (which I frequently am! ) but how can a director of a football club paying to help his club out, 'giving' to RM?
Surely the directors should all be pulling together to save THEIR club?
Is there a split between Ron and the directors, so any money given by the directors is going to RM and not the club?

 

[TheSouthendUnitedRunner]

please correct me if I'm wrong (which I frequently am! ) but how can a director of a football club paying to help his club out, 'giving' to RM?
Surely the directors should all be pulling together to save THEIR club?
Is there a split between Ron and the directors, so any money given by the directors is going to RM and not the club?

One of the things that has helped been paid off, or contributions towards, is legal fees for the Club, which is RM’s doing.

For example, RM was strongly advised against taking legal action against Lopata (and others), but he did it anyways. So, technically, it’s a Club debt, but RM’s doing.

Also, when you are the one chipping in, and RM isn’t, despite owning the majority of shares, then it rubs people up the wrong way.

 

[Medway Blue]

People are also forgetting that existing Directors will necessarily have to be part of discussions around the sale due to the shares they currently own, and monies they are owed. For all we know they could, entirely theoretically of course, be happy to only receive a portion of what they're owed. Would that not be helping the club out, on top of all the times they've done so before?

People are quick to jump on them without knowing how complex and delicate this situation is, and they will have their own very, very valid reasons for not putting in any more money at the moment.

 

[Cricko]

People are also forgetting that existing Directors will necessarily have to be part of discussions around the sale due to the shares they currently own, and monies they are owed. For all we know they could, entirely theoretically of course, be happy to only receive a portion of what they're owed. Would that not be helping the club out, on top of all the times they've done so before?

People are quick to jump on them without knowing how complex and delicate this situation is, and they will have their own very, very valid reasons for not putting in any more money at the moment.

Very true mate, they would get a better return doing this to their money.

 

[GBJ]

That’s fine. But please run me past how effective all of these protests have been?

I would say that the most successful protest to date, was the on-field demonstration against Chesterfield.

Not only did that lead to Brown’s sacking, but it lead to the change of how the football department operated. Gone are the days of ‘Arry giving us a hot tip.

It is like pricking an elephant with a pin. All it does is make fans feel good. In reality it is getting us nowhere. Time for practical solutions. I have come up with one. As usual SZ finds reasons why this won’t work. Next suggestion please, and by the way it is 12 days and counting.

Yeah true. Sadly, I have been bemoaning Ron’s ownership and calling for change, for the last 15 years.

The time for fan pressure and power, has come and gone, IMHO.

An idea that has been floated by several on here, which I think makes the most sense for fan action, is to target his family businesses.

And in addition to that, it should come with a fans guarantee that if Ron doesn’t do what’s right for OUR club, we, us fans, united, will endeavour to make sure his and his families plans for the future are heavily heavily scuppered.

 

[Blue Yonder]

Word on the street is, FVW has been doing that for years and is currently owed more than HMRC, NPower and Emersons put together.

Blimey ! 250k plus to HMRC ? 1million to Npower ? 600k to Emerson’s ? That’s around 2 million if the figures bandied around in here are correct. Now you’re saying FVW is possibly owed more than that. Makes you wonder what else is out there. Business Rates ? Other loans, unpaid contractors. Bringing RH back to an acceptable level. No wonder structuring a deal is difficult.

 

[TheSouthendUnitedRunner]

Blimey ! 250k plus to HMRC ? 1million to Npower ? 600k to Emerson’s ? That’s around 2 million if the figures bandied around in here are correct. Now you’re saying FVW is possibly owed more than that. Makes you wonder what else is out there. Business Rates ? Other loans, unpaid contractors. Bringing RH back to an acceptable level. No wonder structuring a deal is difficult.

There is an awful lot more to come out of the woodwork. I’m surprised more haven’t joined WUP previously.

There are probably more businesses who have given up chasing for what is owed, than people we owe money to as well.

 

[Cricko]

There is an awful lot more to come out of the woodwork. I’m surprised more haven’t joined WUP previously.

There are probably more businesses who have given up chasing for what is owed, than people we owe money to as well.

And The Rat will state it is all club debt and nothing to do with him, which of course as we all know is bollocks. He still see's the club and himself as seperate entities, yet he is the one and only person calling all the shots.