Post-Match Thread and Ratings Tamworth 1-1 Southend United

[Chris Powell's mate]

What I found particularly difficult about yesterday was seeing that Bromley v Harrogate was in a division above where we are.

How on earth did we get into this position I ask myself.

It's a funny old game indeed .........

Answer: because football is all but cyclical.
Even Liverpool were a second tier side at the beginning of the 60s, and who was promoted with them in the 61-62 season? Leyton Orient. Fourth that season was Scunthorpe!
Think Luton Town; from NL to Premier League, and now headed back there.
Arsenal and Everton have been top tier all their existence but no-one else.
Our time will come again. At this level, we're too big to languish.

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

Highlights of yesterday, The Tamworth Tap, Old Bank House and Market Vault!
As for the match we just about coped with their sh!ithousery and 3G pitch.

Draw a fair result fellow Shrimpers.

Am told they're all pretty good.
What was your favourite - and why?

 

[Swiss Tony]

What I found particularly difficult about yesterday was seeing that Bromley v Harrogate was in a division above where we are.

How on earth did we get into this position I ask myself.

It's a funny old game indeed .........

RM.

 

[Kris]

In today's lesson of basic common sense, point one.

The size of the crowd particularly in non league directly correlates with the size of a teams budget.

More people through the door equals more revenue from ticket sales, food and drink and merchandise.

This ultimately equals in the ability to pay more for players and staff.

The better your players and staff, the better results should be.

Given our crowd and therefore revenue is so high in comparison with Tamworth's, we shouldn't be in a position of saying drawing one all with Tamworth is a good result.

Id argue they didn't have a player earning more than any one player in our team today.

15th position indicates that Tamworth are in the bottom 40 percent of teams in this division. Add in that they are part time, there is no justification for saying that one all is a good result.

I wouldn't care if they were top. A professional full time team should beat a part time one.

If you recall, we couldn't ****ing score against Sittingbourne 20 odd days ago.

If you think losing to Sittingbourne and drawing with Tamworth in the same month is in anyway positive more power to you.

I don't. I think we deserve better.

Oh, what a boring sport football would be if all these attributes worked like clockwork every time.

Besides, we may be a professional football club but we’ve been a basket case for more than a decade and are only just waking up from football’s life support machine.

Both us and Tamworth are in this division on merit and the expectation levels of our fans given the context of our existence are baffling sometimes.

 

[Richard Hearn]

Arsenal and Everton have been top tier all their existence but no-one else.

I think you will find that Everton has spent, in total, four seasons out of the top flight, although they have spent more seasons (122?) in the top flight than any other team.

Arsenal has remained in the top flight since being controversially elected to the First Division in 1919 (chicanery in football is nothing new), although even they suffered one relegation to Division 2 before the Great War, in 1913.

 

[Magnum PI]

Am told they're all pretty good.
What was your favourite - and why?

Market Vault. Able to take my lad in who is 10.

 

[Shrimpet steve]

Neither could spurs

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

I think you will find that Everton has spent, in total, four seasons out of the top flight, although they have spent more seasons (122?) in the top flight than any other team.

Arsenal has remained in the top flight since being controversially elected to the First Division in 1919 (chicanery in football is nothing new), although even they suffered one relegation to Division 2 before the Great War, in 1913.

Appreciate the correction; so, NO-ONE has been a top flighter their entire existence!

 

[Chris Powell's mate]

Market Vault. Able to take my lad in who is 10.

As it turns out also the choice of @Rob Noxious - what did you make of it, bud?

 

[Blues ‘n’ twos]

Firstly Tamworth is a great place for the beer lovers!
But it’s a sh*t place for football !
The pitch is awful and a great leveller, the away stand I heard can hold up to a thousand fans, well if that’s the case, why the heck was it so crammed yesterday with only 709 ? Why because there were more than that in there. I witnessed Tamworth staff with card machines outside the “stadium” who let fans through a separate gate other than the turnstile one so they wouldn’t have been counted. I spoke with a steward saying that I felt that they had overloaded the area, he shrugged his shoulders and said that it wasn’t his responsibility, I reminded him that safety was his responsibility!
The sooner we get out of this league the better!

 

[Sammy Shrimper]

Am told they're all pretty good.
What was your favourite - and why?

Old Bank House. Decent Salopian beer and sunshine in large beer garden, plus Camra discount! No Preston fans in there either Market Vault a close second.
Tamworth Tap too rammed.

 

[Hawkwell Blue]

In today's lesson of basic common sense, point one.

The size of the crowd particularly in non league directly correlates with the size of a teams budget.

More people through the door equals more revenue from ticket sales, food and drink and merchandise.

This ultimately equals in the ability to pay more for players and staff.

The better your players and staff, the better results should be.

Given our crowd and therefore revenue is so high in comparison with Tamworth's, we shouldn't be in a position of saying drawing one all with Tamworth is a good result.

Id argue they didn't have a player earning more than any one player in our team today.



15th position indicates that Tamworth are in the bottom 40 percent of teams in this division. Add in that they are part time, there is no justification for saying that one all is a good result.

I wouldn't care if they were top. A professional full time team should beat a part time one.

If you recall, we couldn't ****ing score against Sittingbourne 20 odd days ago.

If you think losing to Sittingbourne and drawing with Tamworth in the same month is in anyway positive more power to you.

I don't. I think we deserve better.

Apart from your response being patronising to another Southend fan who happens to think differently than you I assume you realise football isn’t an exact science. If it were none of us would bother turning up every week.

 

[Hawkwell Blue]

Can everyone please stop talking about making the bloody play offs now?!!!

That’s a shame. Can you please tell me and my mates what we can talk about until May. And also the millions of fans around the country whose clubs have hopes, however slim, for the rest of the season.

 

[RobB11]

Awful result against a total tinpot PART TIME outfit.

 

[RobB11]

Grim first half, a better second half. Disappointing that Bonne looked odds on to score with a header, but he thought otherwise. Gus's goal was sweet and the Tamworth commentators seriously got on my tits. Match report done.

Awful striker. But it’s okay because he’s smart and draws defenders with his runs. Blair sturrock had a better goal scoring record, says it all. He’s washed up as a striker. Will never be the goal scorer he was and we can’t carry strikers in the fifth tier who can’t score goals, sadly, we have four of them. Awful.

 

[Yer Blues]

In today's lesson in common sense.

I disagree it is only one side of the equation. The important factor is how much cash is left after income minus expenditure. Southend are not making money. If crowd size (or income) was the only factor football would be very boring. Although we would beat Col U every time.

The team budget helps obtain better players but it takes time to build a "better" team. Even then there are no guarantees.

Do you dispute that we are paying more for our players and staff than Tamworth?

 

[Yer Blues]

Oh, what a boring sport football would be if all these attributes worked like clockwork every time.

Besides, we may be a professional football club but we’ve been a basket case for more than a decade and are only just waking up from football’s life support machine.

Both us and Tamworth are in this division on merit and the expectation levels of our fans given the context of our existence are baffling sometimes.

Apologies for baffling you. It's clearly an outrageous belief that we should be beating teams like Tamworth.

 

[Holy Joe]

Awful striker. But it’s okay because he’s smart and draws defenders with his runs. Blair sturrock had a better goal scoring record, says it all. He’s washed up as a striker. Will never be the goal scorer he was and we can’t carry strikers in the fifth tier who can’t score goals, sadly, we have four of them. Awful.

What one is scoring?

 

[Yer Blues]

Your patronising lesson in common sense lacks... guess what.... and falls apart on the very first point.

If that were the case, how do Forest Green, Barnet and Gateshead (plus others) have very decent budgets?

Cash injections from.wealthy owners?

I'm not sure of the relevance of FGR and Barnet for us being unable to beat Tamworth and Sittingbourne?

 

[Yer Blues]

Apart from your response being patronising to another Southend fan who happens to think differently than you I assume you realise football isn’t an exact science. If it were none of us would bother turning up every week.

Cool for you to be patronising to a Southend supporter but not for me?

Gotcha!